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3 total messages Started by "JIMMY ANDERSON" Sun, 26 Jun 2022 06:43
Re: the American Traditio
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Author: "JIMMY ANDERSON"
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 06:43
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 MO> Manufacturing and private ownership in the States was also a must have
 MO> in the early days due to the king not having the money or sympathy to
 MO> protect the new colonists from natives and aggressors from other
 MO> countries.  Telling the subjects to arm themselves was a critical move
 MO> towards not needing a king and his army.

Add to this discussion the fact that "civilians shouldn't own military
hardware" is another misnomer... Civilians WERE the military, and they
could own canons, battleships, you name it!




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Re: the American Traditio
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Author: "Weatherman"
Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2022 18:57
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-=> JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to MOONDOG <=-


 MO> Manufacturing and private ownership in the States was also a must have
 MO> in the early days due to the king not having the money or sympathy to
 MO> protect the new colonists from natives and aggressors from other
 MO> countries.  Telling the subjects to arm themselves was a critical move
 MO> towards not needing a king and his army.

 JA> Add to this discussion the fact that "civilians shouldn't own military
 JA> hardware" is another misnomer... Civilians WERE the military, and they
 JA> could own canons, battleships, you name it!

If one were to be a student of the American Revolution and the Founding
Fathers, one would come to the conclusion that the populace should be allowed
the same access to arms and munitions as the military/government.  In essense,
ANY law restricting access of weapons to the population is unconstitutional and
therefore illegal.

The Second Amendment was NOT put in place to guarantee the ability to hunt.  It
was NOT put in place to guarantee the ability to defend against criminals.  It
WAS put in place to guarantee the ability to defend the populace against a
government acting in an over-reaching and tyrannical manner.  The Second
Amendment put in place the FOURTH branch of the government,  The PEOPLE, armed
and able to defend the Constitution on its own terms.  We need to defend the
Second in order to protect the other nine!

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Re: the American Traditio
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Author: "Tracker1"
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2022 06:46
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On 6/26/22 06:43, JIMMY ANDERSON wrote:
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> Add to this discussion the fact that "civilians shouldn't own military
> hardware" is another misnomer... Civilians WERE the military, and they
> could own canons, battleships, you name it!

Pragmatically, I would probably draw a line closer to nuclear materials
and arms than a cannon or tank.  Worth noting that civilian arms dealers
have jets with missiles... they sell to the US (and Australia, Israel,
etc) but they are civilian companies.
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