Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: Rudy Canoza
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2025 11:22

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As expected, Trump told numerous lies in his "100 days" interview with Time Magazine
https://time.com/7280129/donald-trump-fact-check-2025-interview/

Trump's lie: “We were losing $2 trillion a year on trade.”

The Facts: The US had a trade deficit with the rest of the world of $917.8
billion in 2024, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. But this isn’t
money “lost ”; it’s an indication that the U.S. is importing more goods and
services from other countries than it is exporting to the rest of the world. The
U.S. trade deficit on just goods was actually higher at $1.2 trillion. That
figure is offset by America’s $295 billion trade surplus on services.


Trump's lie: “Many criminals—they emptied their prisons, many countries, almost
every country, but not a complete emptying, but some countries a complete
emptying of their prison system.”

The Facts: While Trump has frequently made this claim, there is no evidence that
it is true. The Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank, is among
the groups that have researched such assertions.

“While it’s not possible to know what has animated this repeated allegation, the
only prior instance we can think of is the Mariel boatlift in 1980,” says
Michelle Mittelstadt, MPI’s director of communications, in an email to TIME.
“Castro allowed about 125,000 Cubans to leave amid deep economic problems and
political unrest. A small minority of these were released from prison (where
Cuba detained many political dissidents) or mental health institutions. This is
the only instance we are aware of.”


Trump's lie: “I built hundreds of miles of wall, and then he didn't want to, and
we had another, an extra hundred miles that I could have put up because I
ordered it as extra. I completed the wall, what I was doing, but we have, I
wanted to build additional because it was working so well. An extension. And he
didn't want to do that.”

The Facts: Trump did build hundreds of miles of wall in his first term, most of
which *replaced or supported* existing fencing. The barrier cost U.S. taxpayers
some $11 billion and was breached by smugglers more than 3,200 times over three
years, according to a 2022 Washington Post report. Biden tried to redirect funds
Trump had allocated to build the wall, but a 2019 law stipulated that funds
allocated to the wall could not be used for other purposes. [emphasis added]


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Apr 25, 2025 3:02 AM PT
Fact-Checking What Donald Trump Said in His ‘100 Days’ Interview With TIME

     Politics
     Donald Trump

President Donald Trump at the White House on April 22, 2025.Martin Schoeller for
TIME
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and

On April 22, just ahead of the 100th day of his second term, President Donald
Trump sat down for an interview with TIME in the White House.

TIME has published the transcript of that conversation. Below is a review of
some of Trump’s statements from the interview.

What Trump Said: “We were losing $2 trillion a year on trade.”

The Facts: The US had a trade deficit with the rest of the world of $917.8
billion in 2024, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. But this isn’t
money “lost ”; it’s an indication that the U.S. is importing more goods and
services from other countries than it is exporting to the rest of the world. The
U.S. trade deficit on just goods was actually higher at $1.2 trillion. That
figure is offset by America’s $295 billion trade surplus on services.

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What Trump Said: “Many criminals—they emptied their prisons, many countries,
almost every country, but not a complete emptying, but some countries a complete
emptying of their prison system.”

The Facts: While Trump has frequently made this claim, there is no evidence that
it is true. The Migration Policy Institute, a nonpartisan think tank, is among
the groups that have researched such assertions.

“While it’s not possible to know what has animated this repeated allegation, the
only prior instance we can think of is the Mariel boatlift in 1980,” says
Michelle Mittelstadt, MPI’s director of communications, in an email to TIME.
“Castro allowed about 125,000 Cubans to leave amid deep economic problems and
political unrest. A small minority of these were released from prison (where
Cuba detained many political dissidents) or mental health institutions. This is
the only instance we are aware of.”

What Trump Said: “I built hundreds of miles of wall, and then he didn't want to,
and we had another, an extra hundred miles that I could have put up because I
ordered it as extra. I completed the wall, what I was doing, but we have, I
wanted to build additional because it was working so well. An extension. And he
didn't want to do that.”

The Facts: Trump did build hundreds of miles of wall in his first term, most of
which replaced or supported existing fencing. The barrier cost U.S. taxpayers
some $11 billion and was breached by smugglers more than 3,200 times over three
years, according to a 2022 Washington Post report. Biden tried to redirect funds
Trump had allocated to build the wall, but a 2019 law stipulated that funds
allocated to the wall could not be used for other purposes.


Trump's lie: “The prices of groceries have gone down.”

The Facts: Total food prices increased 3% in March, year over year, according to
the federal Consumer Price Index. Grocery prices, specifically, rose 2.4% during
that period and rose 0.5% since February. Eggs, meat, fish, and poultry saw the
sharpest price increases over the last year, jumping 7.9%. In 2025, food prices
are expected to increase 3.2%, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Grocery prices, specifically, are expected to increase 2.7%.


Trump's lie: “We're taking in billions of dollars of tariffs, by the way.”

The Facts: U.S. Customs and Border Protection said the U.S. was taking in about
$500 million per day in tariff revenue, CNBC reported on April 16. Since his
April 2 tariff announcement, Trump has repeatedly claimed the U.S. was taking in
$2 billion per day from tariffs. Tariffs are a tax paid by the companies
importing goods from other countries. Economists say the increased costs are
usually [always] passed on to consumers.


Trump's lie: “We had no inflation [in Trump's first term]. We had the highest
inflation we've ever had as a country [under Biden], or very close to it. And I
believe it was the highest ever. Somebody said it's the highest in only 48 years.”

The Facts: The Federal Reserve has long viewed 2% as its target inflation rate
for the US economy. In January 2020, at the end of Trump’s first term, the
inflation rate was 2.5%. Under Joe Biden, it rose to 8% in 2022, the highest
inflation the country had seen since 1980, when it hit 13.5%. By the end of
Biden’s term, inflation dropped to 2.9%.


Trump's lie: “Look, that's what China did to us. They charge us 100%. If you
look at India—India charges 100-150%. If you look at Brazil, if you look at
many, many countries, they charge—that's how they survive.”

The Facts: In 2024, India’s average tariff on U.S. goods was 17%; Its tariffs on
U.S. agricultural products were 39%. In January 2025, Chinese tariffs on U.S.
exports were 21%. Trump and others in the Administration have suggested [with
*zero* evidence] that some countries engage in “non-tariff cheating” such as
currency manipulation, intellectual property theft, and dumping cheaper products
into U.S. markets that amount to a higher tariff rate.


Trump's lie: ”We have crime rates under Biden that went through the roof, and we
have to bring those rates down. And unfortunately, those rates have been added
to by the illegal immigrants that he allowed into the country.”

The Facts: In 2020, during the COVID-19 pandemic and Trump’s last year in
office, violent crime rose sharply. According to the Centers for Disease
Control, the homicide rate rose 30% between 2019 and 2020— the highest in modern
history, while assault rates increased by more than 10%.


Trump's lie: “Because I've watched in Portland and I watched in Seattle, and
I've watched in Minneapolis, Minnesota and other places. People do heinous acts,
far more serious than what took place on Jan. 6. And nothing happened to these
people. Nothing.”

The Facts: Trump is comparing the prosecutions of those involved in the Jan. 6,
2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol to protesters who broke laws following the
murder of George Floyd by a police officer in May 2020.

In 2021, the Associated Press reviewed thousands of pages of court documents in
hundreds of federal cases connected to the George Floyd protests. The
investigation found that “dozens of people charged have been convicted of
serious crimes and sent to prison.”

The comparison between how law enforcement handled the Capitol riot and the
Floyd protests is flawed, Kent Greenfield, a professor at Boston College Law
School, told the AP in 2021. “The property damage or accusations of arson and
looting from [the George Floyd protests], those were serious and they were dealt
with seriously, but they weren’t an attack on the very core constitutional
processes that we rely on in a democracy, nor were they an attack on the United
States Congress.”

https://time.com/7280129/donald-trump-fact-check-2025-interview/

Trump lies every time he talks.

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Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: james
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:49

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On 28 Apr 2025, Rudy Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con> posted some
news:MHPPP.664551$l0_4.532889@fx43.iad:

> As expected, Trump told numerous lies in his "100 days" interview with
> Time Magazine
> https://time.com/7280129/donald-trump-fact-check-2025-interview/
>
> Trump's lie: “We were losing $2 trillion a year on trade.”
>
> The Facts: The US had a trade deficit with the rest of the world of
> $917.8 billion in 2024, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
> But this isn’t money “lost ”; it’s an indication that the U.S.
> is importing more goods and services from other countries than it is
> exporting to the rest of the world. The U.S. trade deficit on just
> goods was actually higher at $1.2 trillion. That figure is offset by
> America’s $295 billion trade surplus on services.

"April 03, 2025
U.S. International Trade in Goods and Services, February 2025
The U.S. monthly international trade deficit decreased in February 2025
according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis and the U.S. Census
Bureau. The deficit decreased from $130.7 billion in January (revised) to
$122.7 billion in February, as exports increased and imports decreased.
The goods deficit decreased $8.8 billion in February to $147.0 billion.
The services surplus decreased $0.8 billion in February to $24.3 billion."

https://www.bea.gov/

Trump is making good on his promises.

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: Chris Ahlstrom
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 09:14

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james wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 28 Apr 2025, Rudy Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con> posted some
> news:MHPPP.664551$l0_4.532889@fx43.iad:
>
>> As expected, Trump told numerous lies in his "100 days" interview with
>> Time Magazine
>> https://time.com/7280129/donald-trump-fact-check-2025-interview/
>>
>> Trump's lie: “We were losing $2 trillion a year on trade.”
>>
>> The Facts: The US had a trade deficit with the rest of the world of
>> $917.8 billion in 2024, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
>> But this isn’t money “lost ”; it’s an indication that the U.S.
>> is importing more goods and services from other countries than it is
>> exporting to the rest of the world. The U.S. trade deficit on just
>> goods was actually higher at $1.2 trillion. That figure is offset by
>> America’s $295 billion trade surplus on services.
>
> "April 03, 2025
> U.S. International Trade in Goods and Services, February 2025
> The U.S. monthly international trade deficit decreased in February 2025
> according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis and the U.S. Census
> Bureau. The deficit decreased from $130.7 billion in January (revised) to
> $122.7 billion in February, as exports increased and imports decreased.
> The goods deficit decreased $8.8 billion in February to $147.0 billion.
> The services surplus decreased $0.8 billion in February to $24.3 billion."
>
> https://www.bea.gov/
>
> Trump is making good on his promises.

What a difference a month makes.

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		-- Dorothy Parker

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: Rudy Canoza
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 10:26

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It just pisses Blowjob off to no end that I always spot him immediately! *HA HA
HA HA HA*!

On 4/29/2025 11:49 PM, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese
convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

> On 28 Apr 2025, Rudy Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con> posted some
> news:MHPPP.664551$l0_4.532889@fx43.iad:
>
>> As expected, Trump told numerous lies in his "100 days" interview with
>> Time Magazine
>> https://time.com/7280129/donald-trump-fact-check-2025-interview/
>>
>> Trump's lie: “We were losing $2 trillion a year on trade.”
>>
>> The Facts: The US had a trade deficit with the rest of the world of
>> $917.8 billion in 2024, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
>> But this isn’t money “lost ”; it’s an indication that the U.S.
>> is importing more goods and services from other countries than it is
>> exporting to the rest of the world. The U.S. trade deficit on just
>> goods was actually higher at $1.2 trillion. That figure is offset by
>> America’s $295 billion trade surplus on services.
>
> "April 03, 2025
> U.S. International Trade in Goods and Services, February 2025
> The U.S. monthly international trade deficit decreased in February 2025
> according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis and the U.S. Census
> Bureau.

Because of Trump cratering the economy, Blowjob, you stupid *fat* Nazi
cocksucker — *not* because the U.S. began exporting more.

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Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: Siri Cruz
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 13:40

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On 30/4/25 13:01, Malte Runz wrote:
> I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
> unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy there.
> Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the month
> before.
>
> I'm kinda hungry, though.
>

No pain, no wait gain.

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Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: "P. Coonan"
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 21:51

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On 30 Apr 2025, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> posted some
news:ksv41kt8t49jbni1f0sct8cg2f2f2q3c1i@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:49:38 -0000 (UTC), james <seaside@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 28 Apr 2025, Rudy Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con> posted some
>>news:MHPPP.664551$l0_4.532889@fx43.iad:
>>
>>> As expected, Trump told numerous lies in his "100 days" interview
>>> with Time Magazine
>>> https://time.com/7280129/donald-trump-fact-check-2025-interview/
>>>
>>> Trump's lie: âWe were losing $2 trillion a year on trade.â?
>>>
>>> The Facts: The US had a trade deficit with the rest of the world of
>>> $917.8 billion in 2024, according to the Bureau of Economic
>>> Analysis. But this isnât money âlost â?; itâs an indication
>>> that the U.S. is importing more goods and services from other
>>> countries than it is exporting to the rest of the world. The U.S.
>>> trade deficit on just goods was actually higher at $1.2 trillion.
>>> That figure is offset by Americaâs $295 billion trade surplus on
>>> services.
>>
>>"April 03, 2025
>>U.S. International Trade in Goods and Services, February 2025
>>The U.S. monthly international trade deficit decreased in February
>>2025 according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis and the U.S.
>>Census Bureau. The deficit decreased from $130.7 billion in January
>>(revised) to $122.7 billion in February, as exports increased and
>>imports decreased. The goods deficit decreased $8.8 billion in
>>February to $147.0 billion. The services surplus decreased $0.8
>>billion in February to $24.3 billion."
>>
>>https://www.bea.gov/
>>
>>Trump is making good on his promises.
>
> I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
> unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy there.
> Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the month
> before.
>
> I'm kinda hungry, though.

Good idea.  I'm going to do that to Kroger.

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: Malte Runz
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:49:38 -0000 (UTC), james <seaside@email.com>
wrote:

>On 28 Apr 2025, Rudy Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con> posted some
>news:MHPPP.664551$l0_4.532889@fx43.iad:
>
>> As expected, Trump told numerous lies in his "100 days" interview with
>> Time Magazine
>> https://time.com/7280129/donald-trump-fact-check-2025-interview/
>>
>> Trump's lie: âWe were losing $2 trillion a year on trade.â?
>>
>> The Facts: The US had a trade deficit with the rest of the world of
>> $917.8 billion in 2024, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
>> But this isnât money âlost â?; itâs an indication that the U.S.
>> is importing more goods and services from other countries than it is
>> exporting to the rest of the world. The U.S. trade deficit on just
>> goods was actually higher at $1.2 trillion. That figure is offset by
>> Americaâs $295 billion trade surplus on services.
>
>"April 03, 2025
>U.S. International Trade in Goods and Services, February 2025
>The U.S. monthly international trade deficit decreased in February 2025
>according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis and the U.S. Census
>Bureau. The deficit decreased from $130.7 billion in January (revised) to
>$122.7 billion in February, as exports increased and imports decreased.
>The goods deficit decreased $8.8 billion in February to $147.0 billion.
>The services surplus decreased $0.8 billion in February to $24.3 billion."
>
>https://www.bea.gov/
>
>Trump is making good on his promises.

I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy there.
Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the month
before.

I'm kinda hungry, though.

--
Malte Runz

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: Governor Swill
Date: Thu, 01 May 2025 09:00

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 06:49:38 -0000 (UTC), james <seaside@email.com>
wrote:

>On 28 Apr 2025, Rudy Canoza <rc.@hendrie.con> posted some
>news:MHPPP.664551$l0_4.532889@fx43.iad:
>
>> As expected, Trump told numerous lies in his "100 days" interview with
>> Time Magazine
>> https://time.com/7280129/donald-trump-fact-check-2025-interview/
>>
>> Trump's lie: âWe were losing $2 trillion a year on trade.â?
>>
>> The Facts: The US had a trade deficit with the rest of the world of
>> $917.8 billion in 2024, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.
>> But this isnât money âlost â?; itâs an indication that the U.S.
>> is importing more goods and services from other countries than it is
>> exporting to the rest of the world. The U.S. trade deficit on just
>> goods was actually higher at $1.2 trillion. That figure is offset by
>> Americaâs $295 billion trade surplus on services.
>
>"April 03, 2025
>U.S. International Trade in Goods and Services, February 2025
>The U.S. monthly international trade deficit decreased in February 2025
>according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis and the U.S. Census
>Bureau. The deficit decreased from $130.7 billion in January (revised) to
>$122.7 billion in February, as exports increased and imports decreased.
>The goods deficit decreased $8.8 billion in February to $147.0 billion.
>The services surplus decreased $0.8 billion in February to $24.3 billion."
>
>https://www.bea.gov/
>
>Trump is making good on his promises.

Exports were also down.  Trade in general was off in February. Tariffs
announced in March, drama until now when it's May.

"The services surplus decreased $0.8 billion in February to $24.3
billion.""

Services is a big export item for the US.

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Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: Governor Swill
Date: Thu, 01 May 2025 09:04

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 09:14:24 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>james wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
<snip>
>> "April 03, 2025
>> U.S. International Trade in Goods and Services, February 2025
>> The U.S. monthly international trade deficit decreased in February 2025
>> according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis and the U.S. Census
>> Bureau. The deficit decreased from $130.7 billion in January (revised) to
>> $122.7 billion in February, as exports increased and imports decreased.
>> The goods deficit decreased $8.8 billion in February to $147.0 billion.
>> The services surplus decreased $0.8 billion in February to $24.3 billion."
>>
>> https://www.bea.gov/
>>
>> Trump is making good on his promises.
>
>What a difference a month makes.

It's not as if Trump had anything to do with those numbers.  He was
only sworn in at the end of January and the tariff announcements
wouldn't start to hit until March.

Importers and merchants did some pre tariff stockpiling.

Why doesn't Apple have to pay?

The small, family businesses dependent on Chinese supplies are the
ones that are going to shut down.  Reselling whole sale imports from
China is a big home business.  Trump just shut many of those down and
hurt them all.

But Apple doesn't have to pay!

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Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: Governor Swill
Date: Thu, 01 May 2025 12:36

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On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01:32 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
wrote:

>I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
>unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy there.
>Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the month
>before.
>
>I'm kinda hungry, though.

I'd help out but bread just went up 125%.
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Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: Malte Runz
Date: Thu, 01 May 2025 21:29

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On Thu, 01 May 2025 12:36:54 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01:32 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>wrote:
>
>>I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
>>unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy there.
>>Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the month
>>before.
>>
>>I'm kinda hungry, though.
>
>I'd help out but bread just went up 125%.

If I understand Trump correctly, the supermarket is paying the 125%...
right?



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Malte Runz

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: webster
Date: Fri, 02 May 2025 05:43

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On 01 May 2025, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> posted some
news:gpi71khn0mqclj2cpivkqvf2dpvsrlksm3@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 01 May 2025 12:36:54 -0400, Governor Swill
><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01:32 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
>>>unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy
>>>there. Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the
>>>month before.
>>>
>>>I'm kinda hungry, though.
>>
>>I'd help out but bread just went up 125%.
>
> If I understand Trump correctly, the supermarket is paying the 125%...
> right?

Well, you'd think so but.

Food has brokers just like any other commodity.

Food brokers operate just like every other middleman.  They buy bulk
blocks at a reduced cost and sell to stores, wholesalers, military etc.
The broker pays the 125% and builds it into pricing, which doesn't raise
it the same because it's already set for a period of time.

Now, if the stores buy direct from producer, yes they pay the full
amount and pass it on.  You always pay more buying directly from a
manufacturer.

That is why you see some stores selling a loaf of Wonder Bread for
$2.49, and others like Kroger or Albertsons selling the same loaf for
$5.00.  You would think you'd pay less shopping at larger chains, but it
really doesn't work that way for a variety of factors.

The media really has no clue how pricing works.

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

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Author: J Carlson
Date: Fri, 02 May 2025 09:30

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On 5/2/2025 1:07 AM, Malte Runz wrote:
> On Fri, 2 May 2025 05:43:08 +0200, Chadlee "cuck" Blowjob, 350lb 5'1" morbidly obese convicted child molester and lying fat fuck, lied:

>
>> On 01 May 2025, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> posted some
>> news:gpi71khn0mqclj2cpivkqvf2dpvsrlksm3@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Thu, 01 May 2025 12:36:54 -0400, Governor Swill
>>> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01:32 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
>>>>> unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy
>>>>> there. Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the
>>>>> month before.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm kinda hungry, though.
>>>>
>>>> I'd help out but bread just went up 125%.
>>>
>>> If I understand Trump correctly, the supermarket is paying the 125%...
>>> right?
>>
>> Well, you'd think so but.
>
> I was being sarcastic. Trump keeps saying that 'we're taking in
> hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs from China'.

Which is bullshit. Neither "China" nor Chinese firms pay one cent of tariffs.

>
>>
>> Food has brokers just like any other commodity.
>>
>> Food brokers operate just like every other middleman.  They buy bulk
>> blocks at a reduced cost and sell to stores, wholesalers, military etc.
>> The broker pays the 125% ...
>
> Trump disagrees:
> https://tinyurl.com/5n83bz3h
>
> "Feinberg quizzed the president about the post in the Oval Office as
> Trump sat with Starmer. Feinberg noted of Trump’s tariff’s: “You just
> said, ‘We charge them,’ as in: ‘We charge China.’ But the tariffs are
> paid eventually by American importers and consumers.”
>
> Trump responded before dodging: “No they’re not. No. I think they’re
> paid for by the country.”

Trump is a fucking moron. He thinks of foreign countries from which we import
products as monolithic economic actors. They are not, nor is the U.S. "The U.S."
doesn't import anything — business firms are the importers. "China" doesn't
export anything — Chinese manufacturing and shipping firms do. Chinese firms
involved in manufacturing and shipping their goods don't pay one cent in
tariffs. The tariffs are collected by U.S. Customs and Border Protection *from
American firms*. Those firms in turn pass the costs along to the distributors
and retailers, who then raise their prices to the end consumers.

>
> Trump has often characterized tariffs on imports as money paid by
> foreign countries directly to America, which is not true.

It *absolutely* is not true.

> He has said China sends “billions of dollars” directly to the
> U.S. Treasury to cover the tariffs, also not true.

It's a stupid lie only a complete fucking moron like Trump could believe.

>
>> ... and builds it into pricing, which doesn't raise
>> it the same because it's already set for a period of time.

You're spewing complete bullshit there, Blowjob.

>>
>> Now, if the stores buy direct from producer, yes they pay the full
>> amount and pass it on.  You always pay more buying directly from a
>> manufacturer.

More of Blowjob's bullshit.

>>
>> That is why you see some stores selling a loaf of Wonder Bread for
>> $2.49, and others like Kroger or Albertsons selling the same loaf for
>> $5.00.

You *never* see that, Blowjob, you fucking idiot.

>> You would think you'd pay less shopping at larger chains,

And generally we *do*, Blowjob, you fucking idiot.

>> but it really doesn't work that way for a variety of factors.

That's *exactly* how it works, Blowjob.

>>
>> The media really has no clue how pricing works.

*You* don't have any idea how pricing works, Blowjob, you stupid fucking liar.

>
> I'm on shaky ground there myself, but I know enough about tariffs to
> realize that Trump is either lying or simply dumb.
Both. Trump lies every time he speaks, and he's a fucking moron. He is willfully
and aggressively stupid. As if that isn't bad enough, he's also in obvious and
severe cognitive decline. Trump once spoke relatively articulately, if never
eloquently, but now it's just gibberish. The words are English words, but it's
barely English speech.

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

#159851

Author: Malte Runz
Date: Fri, 02 May 2025 10:07

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On Fri, 2 May 2025 05:43:08 +0200, webster <websterm@verizon.com>
wrote:

>On 01 May 2025, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> posted some
>news:gpi71khn0mqclj2cpivkqvf2dpvsrlksm3@4ax.com:
>
>> On Thu, 01 May 2025 12:36:54 -0400, Governor Swill
>><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01:32 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
>>>>unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy
>>>>there. Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the
>>>>month before.
>>>>
>>>>I'm kinda hungry, though.
>>>
>>>I'd help out but bread just went up 125%.
>>
>> If I understand Trump correctly, the supermarket is paying the 125%...
>> right?
>
>Well, you'd think so but.

I was being sarcastic. Trump keeps saying that 'we're taking in
hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs from China'.

>
>Food has brokers just like any other commodity.
>
>Food brokers operate just like every other middleman.  They buy bulk
>blocks at a reduced cost and sell to stores, wholesalers, military etc.
>The broker pays the 125% ...

Trump disagrees:
https://tinyurl.com/5n83bz3h

"Feinberg quizzed the president about the post in the Oval Office as
Trump sat with Starmer. Feinberg noted of Trumps tariffs: You just
said, We charge them, as in: We charge China. But the tariffs are
paid eventually by American importers and consumers.

Trump responded before dodging: No theyre not. No. I think theyre
paid for by the country.

Trump has often characterized tariffs on imports as money paid by
foreign countries directly to America, which is not true. He has said
China sends billions of dollars directly to the U.S. Treasury to
cover the tariffs, also not true."

> ... and builds it into pricing, which doesn't raise
>it the same because it's already set for a period of time.
>
>Now, if the stores buy direct from producer, yes they pay the full
>amount and pass it on.  You always pay more buying directly from a
>manufacturer.
>
>That is why you see some stores selling a loaf of Wonder Bread for
>$2.49, and others like Kroger or Albertsons selling the same loaf for
>$5.00.  You would think you'd pay less shopping at larger chains, but it
>really doesn't work that way for a variety of factors.
>
>The media really has no clue how pricing works.

I'm on shaky ground there myself, but I know enough about tariffs to
realize that Trump is either lying or simply dumb.

--
Malte Runz

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

#159867

Author: Governor Swill
Date: Sat, 03 May 2025 15:13

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On Thu, 01 May 2025 21:29:46 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
wrote:

>On Thu, 01 May 2025 12:36:54 -0400, Governor Swill
><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01:32 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
>>>unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy there.
>>>Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the month
>>>before.
>>>
>>>I'm kinda hungry, though.
>>
>>I'd help out but bread just went up 125%.
>
>If I understand Trump correctly, the supermarket is paying the 125%...
>right?

No, the importer is.  The company that imports the goods for wholesale
distribution to the retail market pays the tariff and passes that cost
on to the retailer who passes it on to the consumer.

--
MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelfth.

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

#159868

Author: Chris Ahlstrom
Date: Sat, 03 May 2025 15:22

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Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On Thu, 01 May 2025 21:29:46 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 01 May 2025 12:36:54 -0400, Governor Swill
>><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01:32 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
>>>>unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy there.
>>>>Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the month
>>>>before.
>>>>
>>>>I'm kinda hungry, though.
>>>
>>>I'd help out but bread just went up 125%.
>>
>>If I understand Trump correctly, the supermarket is paying the 125%...
>>right?
>
> No, the importer is.  The company that imports the goods for wholesale
> distribution to the retail market pays the tariff and passes that cost
> on to the retailer who passes it on to the consumer.

Ah, a corollary to the Trickle Down theory :-D

--
In a medium in which a News Piece takes a minute and an "In-Depth"
Piece takes two minutes, the Simple will drive out the Complex.
		-- Frank Mankiewicz

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

#159869

Author: Malte Runz
Date: Sun, 04 May 2025 12:52

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On Sat, 03 May 2025 15:13:48 -0400, Governor Swill
<governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 01 May 2025 21:29:46 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 01 May 2025 12:36:54 -0400, Governor Swill
>><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01:32 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
>>>>unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy there.
>>>>Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the month
>>>>before.
>>>>
>>>>I'm kinda hungry, though.
>>>
>>>I'd help out but bread just went up 125%.
>>
>>If I understand Trump correctly, the supermarket is paying the 125%...
>>right?
>
>No, the importer is. ...

I know. I wrote about it here in a.a. over two years ago. Donald
'we're taking in hundreds of billions of dollars from China in
tariffs' Trump doesn't know who pays the tariffs, and if the
Democrats, the pundits, the Youtubers, and podcasters had pointed it
out before the election, the result might have been different.

>... The company that imports the goods for wholesale
>distribution to the retail market pays the tariff and passes that cost
>on to the retailer who passes it on to the consumer.

Welcome back, Inflation!

--
Malte Runz

Re: Trump's lies, April 22

#159879

Author: Governor Swill
Date: Mon, 05 May 2025 17:00

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On Sat, 3 May 2025 15:22:01 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>> On Thu, 01 May 2025 21:29:46 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 01 May 2025 12:36:54 -0400, Governor Swill
>>><governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 22:01:32 +0200, Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have a huge trade deficit with my local super market. It's so
>>>>>unfair, so now I've put a 125% tariff on all the products I buy there.
>>>>>Worked like a charm. This month I bought a lot less than the month
>>>>>before.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm kinda hungry, though.
>>>>
>>>>I'd help out but bread just went up 125%.
>>>
>>>If I understand Trump correctly, the supermarket is paying the 125%...
>>>right?
>>
>> No, the importer is.  The company that imports the goods for wholesale
>> distribution to the retail market pays the tariff and passes that cost
>> on to the retailer who passes it on to the consumer.
>
>Ah, a corollary to the Trickle Down theory :-D

LOL!

--
MAGA wants to kiss off all the amendments since the Twelfth.

🚀 go-pugleaf

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