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Just me, or does this scream "generated by an AI"?

On Sun, 07 Jan 2024 09:56:51 +0000, MummyChunk wrote:
>
> As we enter the year 2024, it is hard to imagine a world without the
> influence of J.R.R. Tolkien, the author of The Hobbit and The Lord of
> the Rings. His works have shaped the imagination of generations of
> readers, inspired countless adaptations and spin-offs, and enriched
> our culture with a wealth of mythology, language, and lore.
>
> Tolkien was born in 1892, and lived through two world wars, witnessing
> the horrors of modern warfare and the rise and fall of empires. He was
> also a scholar of ancient languages and literature, and a devout
> Catholic. His experiences and interests informed his creative vision,
> which he expressed in his stories of Middle-earth, a mythical land
> where elves, dwarves, hobbits, and men struggle against the dark
> forces of evil.
>
> Tolkien?s stories are not only entertaining, but also profound and
> relevant. They explore themes such as courage, friendship, loyalty,
> sacrifice, and redemption. They also reflect Tolkien?s moral and
> spiritual values, which he shared with his friend and fellow writer
> C.S. Lewis. Tolkien believed that there was a higher purpose and a
> divine plan behind the events of history, and that even the smallest
> and humblest of creatures could make a difference in the fate of the
> world.
>
> Tolkien?s legacy is still alive and growing, as new generations of
> fans discover and appreciate his works. In 2024, we can expect to see
> more Tolkien-related events and products, such as:
>
> The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
> animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
> Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
>
> The second season of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, a
> live-action series by Amazon Prime Video that explores the origins of
> the One Ring and the rise of Sauron in the Second Age of Middle-earth
>
> The publication of The Tolkien Calendar 2024, featuring stunning
> paintings by Alan Lee inspired by The Fall of Númenor, a collection of
> writings by Tolkien that chronicles the downfall of a great
> civilization in the Second Age
>
> The celebration of the Tolkien Birthday Toast, an annual tradition
> that invites Tolkien fans all over the world to raise a glass and
> toast the memory of the author on his birthday, January
>
> These are just some of the ways that Tolkien?s works continue to
> enrich our lives and culture. As we face the challenges and
> uncertainties of our own time, we can find hope and inspiration in
> Tolkien?s words and vision. He once wrote, "Not all those who
> wander are lost." Perhaps we can also say, not all those who read
> Tolkien are forgotten. He lives on in our hearts and minds, and in the
> stories that we share with each other. He is, indeed, one of the
> greatest generation of writers.



--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA
                                 https://BrownMath.com/
Tolkien FAQs: http://Tolkien.slimy.com (Steuard Jensen)
Tolkien letters FAQ: https://preview.tinyurl.com/pr6sa7u
FAQ of the Rings: https://BrownMath.com/general/ringfaq.htm
Encyclopedia of Arda: https://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:15:25 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/7/2024 10:56 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
>
>
>> The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
>> animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
>> Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
>
>Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that 
>one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I 
>think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there 
>would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a 
>poster that consists of more than just the title.

IMDb has it:
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>

Random info (from IMDb):
It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
trailers, posters, websites, etc.

It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.

Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
filmmakers.
-- 
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

On 1/11/2024 11:06 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
>
> Just me, or does this scream "generated by an AI"?
>

No, that's not AI, just some person doing some copy to fill a wordcount
and grasping for everything in reach.

On 1/7/2024 10:56 AM, MummyChunk wrote:


> The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
> animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
> Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm’s Deep

Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
poster that consists of more than just the title.

On 1/12/2024 5:41 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:15:25 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/7/2024 10:56 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
>>> animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
>>> Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
>>
>> Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
>> one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
>> think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
>> would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
>> poster that consists of more than just the title.
>
> IMDb has it:
> <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
>
> Random info (from IMDb):
> It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
> trailers, posters, websites, etc.
>
> It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.

Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed
to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were
from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie
has a trailer out a year in advance.
>
> Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
> licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
> filmmakers.

Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of
those two works.

On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 18:02:53 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/12/2024 5:41 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:15:25 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/7/2024 10:56 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
>>>> animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
>>>> Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
>>>
>>> Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
>>> one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
>>> think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
>>> would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
>>> poster that consists of more than just the title.
>> 
>> IMDb has it:
>> <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
>> 
>> Random info (from IMDb):
>> It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
>> trailers, posters, websites, etc.
>> 
>> It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.
>
>Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed 
>to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were 
>from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie 
>has a trailer out a year in advance.

Well, maybe they are running into problems, then.

I looked at the director on IMDb, but the only film I recognized was
/Akira/ -- for which he did some of the animation (background, IIRC).

He has (IIRC) directed some TV series, so it isn't as if this is
entirely new territory for him. The scale may be a bit larger, though.

>> Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
>> licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
>> filmmakers.
>
>Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of 
>those two works.

And how much nonsense they come up with when compared with the actual
story by JRRT. Not I that I recall anything relating to the first
battle of Helm's Deep, except, perhaps, as part of how the Rohirrim
(not, as PJ & friends apparently decided they were called "the
Rohans") got to Rohan.

And a dropped passage on how some of the people they displaced (who
were /not/ happy about that) showed up at the Muster of Rohan to march
to the aid of Gondor. But that's part of the later story.
-- 
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"

kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/12/2024 5:41 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:15:25 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2024 10:56 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
>>>> animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
>>>> Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
>>>
>>> Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
>>> one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
>>> think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
>>> would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
>>> poster that consists of more than just the title.
>>
>> IMDb has it:
>> <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
>>
>> Random info (from IMDb):
>> It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
>> trailers, posters, websites, etc.
>>
>> It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.
>
> Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed
> to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were
> from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie
> has a trailer out a year in advance.
>>
>> Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
>> licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
>> filmmakers.
>
> Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of
> those two works.

Unfortunate that inaccurate embellishments can not be effectively prohibited.

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/12/2024 5:41 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:15:25 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/7/2024 10:56 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
>>>> animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
>>>> Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
>>>
>>> Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
>>> one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
>>> think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
>>> would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
>>> poster that consists of more than just the title.
>>
>> IMDb has it:
>> <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
>>
>> Random info (from IMDb):
>> It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
>> trailers, posters, websites, etc.
>>
>> It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.
>
> Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed
> to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were
> from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie
> has a trailer out a year in advance.
>>
>> Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
>> licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
>> filmmakers.
>
> Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of
> those two works.

Ironically producing even less accurate versions of the
earlier Ages than they would if permitted Silmarillion and UT
material.

Adaptations...JUST SAY NO!!!!

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

On 2/16/2024 8:21 PM, Louis Epstein wrote:
> kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 1/12/2024 5:41 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
>>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 10:15:25 +0100, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/7/2024 10:56 AM, MummyChunk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
>>>>> animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
>>>>> Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
>>>>
>>>> Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
>>>> one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
>>>> think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
>>>> would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
>>>> poster that consists of more than just the title.
>>>
>>> IMDb has it:
>>> <https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
>>>
>>> Random info (from IMDb):
>>> It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
>>> trailers, posters, websites, etc.
>>>
>>> It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.
>>
>> Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed
>> to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were
>> from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie
>> has a trailer out a year in advance.
>>>
>>> Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
>>> licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
>>> filmmakers.
>>
>> Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of
>> those two works.
>
> Ironically producing even less accurate versions of the
> earlier Ages than they would if permitted Silmarillion and UT
> material.
>
> Adaptations...JUST SAY NO!!!!

I dunno, adaptions can be good. It's just that nobody involved in those
big projects ever seems to be interested in making good products and
instead goes for whatever might make them the most bucks.
(which is funny because then some genuinely good adaption of some stuff
comes out and everyone learns exactly the wrong lessons from it)