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I am absolutely 100% sold on AviSys. After trying other software, nothing
compares!

Peter Weber
wings@famvid.com
http://www2.famvid.com

Dave or Sandy Rut <srut@galesburg.net> wrote in message
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> I am looking for opinions of the best birding software?  Either freeware,
> shareware or retail?
>
> Thanks
>
>

Peter Weber wrote:

> I am absolutely 100% sold on AviSys. After trying other software, nothing
> compares!
>
> Peter Weber
> wings@famvid.com
> http://www2.famvid.com
>

I agree -- I too believe that AviSys is the best bird listing software.  I also
think its one of the best software programs I own.  It is easy to install and
use.  Upgrades are downloaded free over the web.  I've never had a problem with
it.

--
John J. Collins
Whitestone, NY
"In the end we will conserve only what we love; we will love only what we
understand; we will understand only what we are taught."  (Senegalese proverb.)

I love the one I got at:

http://st11.yahoo.com/wildbirdmart/bnacd.html

I has the clearest pictures and it is easy to
navigate.

Regards,
BB

In article <7tqk6h$4i4$1@news.outfitters.com>,
  "Dave or Sandy Rut" <srut@galesburg.net> wrote:
> I am looking for opinions of the best birding software?  Either
freeware,
> shareware or retail?
>
> Thanks
>
>


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Before you buy.

> > I am absolutely 100% sold on AviSys. After trying other software,
nothing
> > compares!

> I agree -- I too believe that AviSys is the best bird listing software.  I
also
> think its one of the best software programs I own.  It is easy to install
and
> use.  Upgrades are downloaded free over the web.  I've never had a problem
with
> it.

That is enough for me but,  where can I check it out?  Retail, shareware or
freeware.

Thanks,
Dave Rut

You can call Jerry Blinn at AviSys if you have questions. He is a birder and
a software magician! In addition, he is a very nice person.

Peter

John J. Collins <jjcbird@banet.net> wrote in message
news:3802B4F2.6BE14017@banet.net...
> Dave or Sandy Rut wrote:
>
> > That is enough for me but,  where can I check it out?  Retail, shareware
or
> > freeware.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave Rut
>
> See AviSys' home page at http://www.mindspring.com/~avisys/
>
> --
> John J. Collins
> Whitestone, NY
> "In the end we will conserve only what we love; we will love only what we
> understand; we will understand only what we are taught."  (Senegalese
proverb.)
>
>

Dave or Sandy Rut wrote:

> That is enough for me but,  where can I check it out?  Retail, shareware or
> freeware.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Rut

See AviSys' home page at http://www.mindspring.com/~avisys/

--
John J. Collins
Whitestone, NY
"In the end we will conserve only what we love; we will love only what we
understand; we will understand only what we are taught."  (Senegalese proverb.)

On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:33:03 GMT, birdbrain7220@my-deja.com wrote:

>I love the one I got
 Dear BB,
     You mention pictures......as I am also looking for "good birding
software", I went to the avisys site and found only references to
manipulation of one's lifelist as if that mattered . IMHO, the
lifelist is the least important thing about birding.. I am looking for
help in identification and don't see why a good program couldn't
assemble a screen of pictures of all birds that fit your input
description with hints on how to distinguish among them and be able to
provide songs, maps of distributions etc.  Does your candidate do
these things?   thanks.......jon

Ok,
what is birding software? An electronic fieldguide, a list keeping
program (database), a combination of both?  I know a couple of CD-ROM
based "fieldguides" like Thayer's BNA, Peterson's CD, and 2 or 3
European ones ( The best is a 4 CD collection with LOTS of all possible
details = 400 british pounds).
Most of these programs have what they call ID help.  Forget it! If you
are not able to find a match in a printed guide, the computer won't be
able to do it for you either.  I tried this function in BNA with a bird
I knew and gave all the information and it wasn't on the list with the
suggestions.
However, a stronghold of the cd's is the combination of pictures,
sounds, and videos. But none of the above mentioned programs uses
multimedia perfectly.  First I miss the information in what behavioural
contex the sound is heard (male, female, alarmcall etc.).  Most of the
pure audio CDs give this essential information in a booklet and
sometimes even recordings from different geographical location (dialects
and slang are common within one birdspecies). Also some of the videos
are also pretty useless.  They show the bird, like the photos or
drawings. No additional information! Others are good.  They show
specific behaviour like feeding techniques or mating display, sometimes
also very specific fieldmarks. Just a few examples: diving terns,
feeding shorebirds, broken wing display in plovers etc. etc.  Some of
these points shouldn't be to difficult to add to new versions of
existing CDs. Pay attention software industry.
Listing software is a different chapter.  Listing doesn't mean a life
list first -at least not for me-, and a program which is only able to do
this would be a nice gimick on a birding-CD, nothing more.  Listing is
collecting data of what species were seen at a particular time of the
year(or fieldtrip) in which habitat, or were and when a paricular
species was found.  A database! This kind of data collection allows
finaly to draw the maps we find in our fieldguides and gives a lot more
information about birds (i.e. christmas bird counts).

The non-plus ultra birding software is not existing, and never will.
Wouldn't it be nice to connect a palm notebook directly to your scope
and the computer tells you what's in the view? Nope, wouldn't be fun
anymore!

My two cents
Good birding

Ulli

Jon and/or Susan Herriott wrote:
>
> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999 15:33:03 GMT, birdbrain7220@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >I love the one I got
>  Dear BB,
>      You mention pictures......as I am also looking for "good birding
> software", I went to the avisys site and found only references to
> manipulation of one's lifelist as if that mattered . IMHO, the
> lifelist is the least important thing about birding.. I am looking for
> help in identification and don't see why a good program couldn't
> assemble a screen of pictures of all birds that fit your input
> description with hints on how to distinguish among them and be able to
> provide songs, maps of distributions etc.  Does your candidate do
> these things?   thanks.......jon