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Started by drm@wagner.sr.hp
Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
Square Foot Gardening?
Author: drm@wagner.sr.hp
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
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Anybody using this method for thier garden? This is from the book "Square foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholomew (sp). -D -- Dan McLaughlin -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Square Foot Gardening?
Author: Fred Worster
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
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Dan McLaughlin wrote: > > Anybody using this method for their garden? This is from the book > "Square foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholomew (sp). > > -D > > -- Dan McLaughlin > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Dan; I have a man who lives across the road form me and uses the Square Foot method in his garden. It produces 40-60% more than my gardens did when we had a large garden in the 1960s to the 1980s, 85 X 300 feet (when my children grew up I had a small one) it is great and easy to use. He uses newspapers between the rows and natural lumber so he does not add any cemicals to his garden. Grows cucumbers on chicken wire and has a good mix of vegetables. also grows his own garlic, melons, and other goodies. try it and let me know how you make out. Planing out the placement is very important.
Re: Square Foot Gardening?
Author: gudrun@winston.a
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
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In article <3317326F.247F@mint.net>, Fred Worster <fredw@mint.net> writes: |> Dan McLaughlin wrote: |> > |> > Anybody using this method for their garden? This is from the book |> > "Square foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholomew (sp). |> > |> > -D |> > |> > -- Dan McLaughlin |> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- |> Hi Dan; |> |> I have a man who lives across the road form me and uses the Square Foot |> method in his garden. |> |> It produces 40-60% more than my gardens did when we had a large garden |> in the 1960s to the 1980s, 85 X 300 feet (when my children grew up I had |> a small one) it is great and easy to use. |> |> He uses newspapers between the rows and natural lumber so he does not |> add any cemicals to his garden. Grows cucumbers on chicken wire and has |> a good mix of vegetables. also grows his own garlic, melons, and other |> goodies. try it and let me know how you make out. |> |> Planing out the placement is very important. For those of us who are new to this, would you explain what a square foot garden is? How big does it have to be? What the is the concept/thought behind it? How does it work? Thanks, Gudrun -- ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Gudrun Achtenhagen Princess of Quite Alot http://reality.sgi.com/employees/gudrun ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Re: Square Foot Gardening?
Author: gypsy@insync.net
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
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> Anybody using this method for thier garden? This is from the book >"Square foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholomew (sp). You can subscribe to the Square Foot Gardening email list. Send email to LISTSERV@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU Leave the subject line empty. In the body of the message put SUBSCRIBE SQFT Your Name You can also receive the list in digest form if you prefer. Best wishes, Lindy M gypsy@insync.net
Re: Square Foot Gardening?
Author: Doreen Howard
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:00
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Dan McLaughlin wrote: > > Anybody using this method for thier garden? This is from the book > "Square foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholomew (sp). > > -D > > -- Dan McLaughlin > -------------------------------------------------------------------------Yes, I've used it most of my gardening life. I read Mel's book in the late 1970's when it first came out. I now use an abridged version of SQ FT. My beds are 4 X 28-feet and are constructed out of 8X8X18-inch cider blocks. I plant herbs, flowers and bunching onions in the block holes. The premise of super-building the soil and NEVER walking on it to compact it works in any application. I get great yeilds. In fact, if I don't get at least 60 lbs. of tomatoes from each plant, for instance, I know that there is something missing from the soil. But, I do get those kinds of yields every year, because I constantly add compost and manure. Try it. I think you will find it easier (after the inital beds are built) and much more productive than conventional veggie gardening. I even sell some of my lettuces and tomatoes to gourmet restaurants. So that gives you an idea about the yields and ease--because I'm basically an hour a day gardener. Doreen Howard
Re: Square Foot Gardening?
Author: jhu554@airmail.n
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00
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On 28 Feb 1997 16:36:03 GMT, drm@wagner.sr.hp.com (Dan McLaughlin) wrote: > Anybody using this method for thier garden? This is from the book >"Square foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholomew (sp). > First welcome to the new group. Key word "Edible". I am changing over this year to the square foot method. A slow process dividing up a big plot. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX John Huff E-mail: jhu554@airmail.net Personal Web Page: http://web2.airmail.net/jhu554 Tom & Susan Schmidtke 3S Emu Ranch HC3, Box 1017; Bandara, TX 78003 210-796-7145
Re: Square Foot Gardening?
Author: "Paul R.B.Smith"
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00
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What is a Square foot garden? it sounds good, but I can't quite figure out what you mean. I would join with Gudrun and ask for an explanation. I am always willing to find new ways to make my garden work better. I have used the raised garden Idea, and a few others, but this is one I have never heard of. Thanks. :) -- Paul Smith honker@lancnews.infi.net http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3529 Seek wisdom, for it is direction. Seek Beauty, for it is life.
Re: Square Foot Gardening?
Author: crahan@coredcs.c
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00
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"Paul R.B.Smith" <Honker@lancnews.infi.net> wrote: :-) What is a Square foot garden? it sounds good, but I can't quite figure out :-) what you mean. I would join with Gudrun and ask for an explanation. I am :-) always willing to find new ways to make my garden work better. I have used :-) the raised garden Idea, and a few others, but this is one I have never :-) heard of. :-) Paul Smith Square foot gardening is based on the premise that it's inefficient to grow in long rows with walkways between each row. Carrots for example want to be spaced a couple inches apart in the row right? So conventional row planting gives us 2 or 3 rows of carrots in approx 4 feet. If you had 15 rows of carrots with the rows spaced 2 inches apart and a walkway on each side, you would use the same 4 feet of garden. Hmmm, 15 rows of properly spaced, healthy carrots.... or 2-3 rows.. grown in the same number of **square feet**. Other benefits of square foot or what some call "intensive" planting are that there is less root damage caused by walking up and down the rows. Once the crown of the closely planted veggies shade the ground, the weeds will stop sprouting and those that do will suffer from the lack of light at soil level. And the increases in yield is huge. I think 'ol Mel also is a big believer in trellising everything possible. I have probably 450 feet of 6 foot high permanent trellis in my garden. In addition to the usual beans and peas, I run the cukes and pickles up, smaller pumpkins, cantelopes, cherry tomatoes. I even tried watermelon once. Again, the same theory. cucumbers on the ground need to be spaced about 4 feet apart. I space mine about 4-6 inches apart. Gobs-O-Pickles. Jim Crahan Stevens point, WI ** Do what you want to the girl but leave me alone **
Re: Square Foot Gardening?
Author: trif@serv.net (M
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 00:00
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In article <01bc2680$616f8860$80a798ce@honker>, Paul R.B.Smith <Honker@lancnews.infi.net> wrote: >What is a Square foot garden? it sounds good, but I can't quite figure out >what you mean. I would join with Gudrun and ask for an explanation. I am >always willing to find new ways to make my garden work better. I have used >the raised garden Idea, and a few others, but this is one I have never >heard of. It is an intensive method of planting that yields more per square foot of garden than the traditional row method. The basic planting area is a square foot of soil. These are grouped together in 4 x 4 blocks with paths between (to reach for watering or weeding). The planting spacing is done based on the requirements for each plant. For instance, radishes are planted 3 inches apart, for 16 in a one foot square. Vining crops are grown vertically. Blocks for plants that require more than 12 inch spacing are modified to 18, 24, 36 or 48 inch spacing. Planting is normally done in succession style (so not everything comes ripe at once), and patchwork style, which is visually interesting, and tends to help avoid problems with build up of particular diseases or pests. It tends to be both more and less labor intensive than row gardening. Because the soil is never walked on, it never needs to be turned or tilled except between plantings, when compost and/or fertilizer is added. No thinning of seedlings is needed, and once the plants grow big enough to shade their area, weeding is much lessened. But it is important to go out and visually look over your plots nearly every day, because pests can nail a large percentage of your garden if they go unchecked, both because the garden is shrunk in space, and becuase you're not planting extra seeds that later need to be thinned. Mel Bartholomew (the author of Square Foot Gardening) suggests hand watering your plants since that will force you to check on them often. So the overall amount of labor is lessened, but what there is to do, you have to do almost every day. Your local library likely has the book, so if you're interested in reading up on it more, check there. -- Mary Conner trif@serv.net
Re: Square Foot Gardening?
Author: Gary or Mary Iri
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:00
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LikeDan McLaughlin wrote: > > Anybody using this method for thier garden? This is from the book > "Square foot Gardening" by Mel Bartholomew (sp). > > -D > > -- Dan McLaughlin > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doreen, I have used a modification of this method for a long time. I first started it in New Orleans after reading the book, and it was quite successful. But it really came into its own in this garden in Arizona, Scottsdale. I have three raised beds, 4x8, never walk on the soil, it is under continuous enrichment/amendment, and we raise more than we can ea. The limitation for us is that we cannot grow enough variety yet, with only three beds, so there are plans for making more. In this area, water conservation is important, and this type of cultivation is excellent for that, because the soil is so little exposed, and if you deliver water only to th root zone, the saving are considerable. Mary I
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