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9 total messages Started by "James" Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:50
Fresh manure
#99598
Author: "James"
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 13:50
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Would hot shit still burn if I put it at the bottom of the hole and
plant transplants on top if it?

Re: Fresh manure
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Author: "TQ" <ToweringQs
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 00:07
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"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Would hot shit still burn if I put it at the bottom of the hole and
> plant transplants on top if it?

I'm inclined to say yes.  If it's 'hot,' then it's packin' a goodly amount
of nitrogen, which will burn your roots.


Re: Fresh manure
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Author: OmManiPadmeOmele
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 01:19
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In article <1119646242.110351.223730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
 "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Would hot shit still burn if I put it at the bottom of the hole and
> plant transplants on top if it?
>

Probably...

I'd use it as a "tea" personally.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson
Re: Fresh manure
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Author: Steve
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:04
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No, actually it wouldn't.
Whether it's a good idea depends on what you are transplanting over it.
Probably not a good idea for cabbage. Much better for pumpkins.
The one and only way I was ever able to grow edible melons up here was
to dig a trench about 14 inches deep, fill it almost level full of very
fresh horse manure and then put the soil I dug out, back on top. This
created a raised bed where I placed melon transplants. Two days later, a
soil thermometer stuck into the raised bed was 15 to 20 degrees warmer
than soil a few feet away. I also covered the ridge with black plastic
(before the plants went in), which was a part of why the raised bed was
warmer.
With both watermelon and muskmelon, the difference is like day and
night. Ten times as much vine growth in our cool climate.

Steve in the Adirondacks
Re: Fresh manure
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Author: "Dwayne"
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 11:09
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Asparagus roots planted with 2 inches of dirt between the roots and the
manure will grow like crazy.  What you have to look out for is what had been
eaten to generate the manure.  Horse manure will produce a lot of grain
plants coming up around what ever you planted on top of it.  The same with
chicken and several other manures.  I feel it is best to get aged (2 years)
manure mixed with top soil, and use that, unless you are going to cover it
with plastic, newspaper, cardboard, or cloth and plant your stuff in homes
in the cover.  Don't do asparagus that way.

Dwayne
"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Would hot shit still burn if I put it at the bottom of the hole and
> plant transplants on top if it?
>


Re: Fresh manure
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Author: "JonquilJan"
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 21:02
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Depends on what ind of manure you are using.  Poultry manure (chicken,
turkeys) is much more concentrated than equine (horse, donkey, mule) manure
and will definitely burn roots.   Cattle manure is about in between and may
or may not burn.  Aged manure is best in any case.  A manure tea is suitable
for transplants.  To make the tea, put manure (horse -cattle manure
preferred) is some sort of a sack (feed sack work well) and dunk it into a
bucket (3 or 5 gallon) or water.  Let it sit for 30 minutes or longer,
occasionally sloshing the sack around.  Then remove the sack and dole out
the water (should now be a deep 'tea;' color) around the transplants.

Lots of ways to do this - just my personal method.

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying
James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1119646242.110351.223730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Would hot shit still burn if I put it at the bottom of the hole and
> plant transplants on top if it?
>


Re: Fresh manure
#99657
Author: "Ottawa"
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 02:21
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I'm tempted to wonder is this a serious question.
"TQ" <ToweringQs AT adelphia.net> wrote in message
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>
> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1119646242.110351.223730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> > Would hot shit still burn if I put it at the bottom of the hole and
> > plant transplants on top if it?
>
> I'm inclined to say yes.  If it's 'hot,' then it's packin' a goodly amount
> of nitrogen, which will burn your roots.
>
>


Re: Fresh manure
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Author: askmeinrgcd@eart
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:35
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In article <QZKdnXz0b_MT7yDfRVn-jw@adelphia.com>, Steve <tlswilso@aol.com> wrote:
>No, actually it wouldn't.
>Whether it's a good idea depends on what you are transplanting over it.
>Probably not a good idea for cabbage. Much better for pumpkins.
>The one and only way I was ever able to grow edible melons up here was
>to dig a trench about 14 inches deep, fill it almost level full of very
>fresh horse manure and then put the soil I dug out, back on top. This
>created a raised bed where I placed melon transplants. Two days later, a
>soil thermometer stuck into the raised bed was 15 to 20 degrees warmer
>than soil a few feet away. I also covered the ridge with black plastic
>(before the plants went in), which was a part of why the raised bed was
>warmer.
>With both watermelon and muskmelon, the difference is like day and
>night. Ten times as much vine growth in our cool climate.

<blink> I wonder if that would work with lettuce and peas here. By the
time the soil warms up it's already too hot for them (lettuce gets
bitter and bolts almost immediately). If a patch of ground could be
warmed like that, while the air is still cool right for the couple
months after the last hard freeze, maybe they'd be happier. (Our soil
is 100% nitrogen-free. Too much manure is never an issue.)

Would certainly be easier than building a greenhouse :)

~REZ~

Re: Fresh manure
#99719
Author: askmeinrgcd@eart
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:37
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In article <c1b74$42bd81c2$cee617f6$29268@st-tel.net>, "Dwayne" <jenco@st-tel.net> wrote:
>Asparagus roots planted with 2 inches of dirt between the roots and the
>manure will grow like crazy.  What you have to look out for is what had been
>eaten to generate the manure.  Horse manure will produce a lot of grain
>plants coming up around what ever you planted on top of it.  The same with

Grain isn't so bad, it's easy to yank up. But beware of manure that
started life as bermuda grass; it nearly always has mature seeds in
it. The seeds come up forever, it spreads all over, and it has roots
to China. Great if you're trying to get a lawn going in the desert
(the ground cover sure does wonders for soil water retention). Not so
good if you're tired of digging grass outta the garden!

~REZ~



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