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14 total messages Started by rc_p38_pilot@yah Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:59
Did NRA sell your address?
#99642
Author: rc_p38_pilot@yah
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:59
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I thought it was interesting that I got some junk mail from George W.
Bush and the Republican National Committee with the same distintive
typo in my address that the NRA has on file.  Maybe it's a
coincidence, but I don't think so.  I hope it's not a new policy of
the NRA to start selling membership info.

Anybody else get the "RNC Victory 2004" Membership Card and
Verification Reply Form?


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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99685
Author: "Jeffersonian"
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:37
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"Jeffrey D." <rc_p38_pilot@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cbie8h$ppp$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu...
# I thought it was interesting that I got some junk mail from George W.
# Bush and the Republican National Committee with the same distintive
# typo in my address that the NRA has on file.  Maybe it's a
# coincidence, but I don't think so.  I hope it's not a new policy of
# the NRA to start selling membership info.

I finally rejoined the Wayne LaPierre Admiration Society just recently -
membership stuff in the mail yesterday.  I mainly rejoined for local club
membership, CMP stuff, etc.

# Anybody else get the "RNC Victory 2004" Membership Card and
# Verification Reply Form?

Yes, despite my giving up on the GOP and officially registering as
Libertarian over a year ago.  NOT ONE WORD in their survey about the 2nd or
RKBA.


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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99686
Author: River Horse
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:37
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Recently put my son on the NRA membership rolls, and he has since been
recieving a **BUNCH** of political literature-- all Republican, all with
the NRA specific unique address typo.

if the NRA did not sell it, they gave it away, or are doing the campaign
ads themselves.

a nice portrait of the President and the First Lady was in one of the
mailings as a thank you for his (assumed) donation.

BTW, he is too young to register to vote or anything like that....

~steve
(nice to find someone else that does the unique address thing -- it is
amazing where the addresses go!)

Jeffrey D. wrote:
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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99688
Author: Peter McMullen
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:37
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Jeffrey D. wrote:
# I thought it was interesting that I got some junk mail from George W.
# Bush and the Republican National Committee with the same distintive
# typo in my address that the NRA has on file.  Maybe it's a
# coincidence, but I don't think so.  I hope it's not a new policy of
# the NRA to start selling membership info.
#
#

Years ago, when my cousin signed up, the same thing happened
to her...


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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99704
Author: John Chase
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:37
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Jeffrey D. wrote:

 > ...

Oh, is that what that was?  I just toss those things unopened into the
shredder.

     -jc-
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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99713
Author: mikikanazawa@yah
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:37
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Oh, you bet the NRA sells your address!  Just about any company you
provide your address to adds it to a list they can sell, NRA included.
 Some people (myself included) spell their names a little differently
each time they fill out a form so you know who's selling your name.
Then call them and ask to be added to the opt-out list.

Since joining the NRA I have received numerous gun and
outdoors-related catalogs and such, but also received a "Things You
Never Knew Existed" junk catalog and totally non-gun-related garbage.
TONS of it.  Thankfully the only phone solicitations have been from
the NRA itself... so far.


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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99733
Author: Mitch Barrie
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2004 22:45
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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:37:21 +0000 (UTC), "Jeffersonian"
<jeffersonian@iguanasoft.com> wrote:

#I finally rejoined the Wayne LaPierre Admiration Society just recently -
#membership stuff in the mail yesterday.  I mainly rejoined for local club
#membership, CMP stuff, etc.

NRA does not count as a CMP-affiliated club.


Mitch



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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99798
Author: herb@urusei.net
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 02:11
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In article <cbkuam$fv$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>,
Mitch Barrie  <redneck@goathill.net> wrote:
#On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:37:21 +0000 (UTC), "Jeffersonian"
#<jeffersonian@iguanasoft.com> wrote:
#
##I finally rejoined the Wayne LaPierre Admiration Society just recently -
##membership stuff in the mail yesterday.  I mainly rejoined for local club
##membership, CMP stuff, etc.
#
#NRA does not count as a CMP-affiliated club.

No, it does not, however many CMP-affiliated clubs have in the
club rules that club members must also be members of the NRA
before joining.  Many of the same CMP-affiliated clubs also
participate in NRA sanctioned matches as well.

/herb
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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99831
Author: "Zachary Hilbun"
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:56
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The Direct Markers Association has a do not mail list.  The federal
government has a do not call list.  They made a difference for me.

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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99839
Author: 2000man@wongfaye
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:56
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Mitch Barrie <redneck@goathill.net> wrote in message news:<cbkuam$fv$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...
# On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 12:37:21 +0000 (UTC), "Jeffersonian"
# <jeffersonian@iguanasoft.com> wrote:
#
# #I finally rejoined the Wayne LaPierre Admiration Society just recently -
# #membership stuff in the mail yesterday.  I mainly rejoined for local club
# #membership, CMP stuff, etc.
#
# NRA does not count as a CMP-affiliated club.
#

yes you are right but many cmp-affiliated clubs require you to be an
nra member as well to join them


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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99883
Author: sheywood@MyRealB
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:26
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:59:13 +0000 (UTC) rc_p38_pilot@yahoo.com (Jeffrey D
) wrote:

  >I thought it was interesting that I got some junk mail from George W.
  >Bush and the Republican National Committee with the same distintive
  >typo in my address that the NRA has on file.  Maybe it's a
  >coincidence, but I don't think so.  I hope it's not a new policy of
  >the NRA to start selling membership info.

  >Anybody else get the "RNC Victory 2004" Membership Card and
  >Verification Reply Form?

  I believe it is a policy of almost all organizations which are
  strongly involved in political lobbying activities to provide
  their membership information to the political candidates which
  the organization feels will best support their cause.  The NRA
  is no better or worse in this respect than most all other
  organizations that are involved in political lobbying activities.
  There are some elections for some offices in some districts in
  which the NRA officially endorses the candidate of the Democratic
  party instead of his Republican challenger.  The NRA doesn't care
  one way or the other about what party a candidate belongs to.
  They are concerned only with how a candidate stands on 2nd Amendment
  issues.

  I think it is very strange that in most elections the Republican
  candidate is the one who is most supportive of 2nd Amendment rights.

  In mailings of political propaganda it is always very interesting to
  take note of any typos in your name and address.  If the typos exactly
  match the same typos that some organization you belong to has on file,
  then the typos will indeed be seen as very interesting to other
  members of your organization.  Also the typos will be seen as matters
  of interest to the candidates who are thought to oppose the views of
  your organization.

  Sam Heywood
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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99927
Author: "C & M"
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:36
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I think that a lot of this boils down to whether you think that the 2nd
amendment is about your privledge to shoot and hunt.  It's not.  It's all
about the nations founders assumptions that you can't trust governments and
only the  possibility of an armed populace which could put its collective
food down against unjust law makers.  Would we have a chance in hell?  NO!
It's a principle.  Based on their defense of the principle the NRA has to
find every possible way to keep the coffers stuffed.  I have to admit that
when I receive 2-3 mailings a week I wonder whether my money is well spent.




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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99988
Author: seemeed@earthlin
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:44
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rc_p38_pilot@yahoo.com (Jeffrey D.) wrote in message news:<cbie8h$ppp$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>...
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I did also get the RNC Victory 2000.  Here's my spin on this:
1. NRA CANNOT sell your name or address.  It's against the
organizations by-laws, incorporated in the state of NY.  Ask the IRS.
(IRS sued for NRAs mailng list, IRS lost!).
2. NRA does mailings for like minded orgs, i.e. RNC.  Typically, a
group would deliver its mailing, NRA would attach labels and mail
away.  Your name never leaves NRA's posession.
2.5 BTW, if you're worried about getting on a 'list', the Post Office
can & does keep records of who receives what (American Rifleman, Guns
& Ammo, etc).
3. So what???  If you don't like the mail you receive, throw it away.
Would you rather that the NRA censor your mail, only sending things
that 'they' think you'll approve of?  What if your tastes don't agree
with mine?  Who's hurt if the RNC & 'W' send you some mail, perhaps
you send a few $$ and 'W' wins in November?  What if Kerry wins
because you sent a few $$ to the Losertarians?  Then we all lose!!!!


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Re: Did NRA sell your address?
#99993
Author: Greg
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:44
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"Jeffrey D." wrote:
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None for me yet, but it doesn't surprise me that they sell the info. The
NRA is all about money now. Their telemarketers call me all the time and
I get a "donate now" letter at least once a month.

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