🚀 go-pugleaf

"Reed Kennedy" <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns910BAB07E4F7Dcornermailcom@209.155.56.81...
> Or maybe what I really want is a R1100S after all.
>
> Ok.  I just came back from test riding the BMW R1100S and the Triumph
> Sprint ST back to back.  Let me put it this way:
>
> If I were writing a magazine review, the Triumph would win by a mile.
It's
> the better motorcycle.
>
> Now that we've got that out of the way...
>
> I just love that BMW.  It simply -feels- right to me.  I'll probably
offend
> both camps, but the R1100S strikes me as my Buell done right.  Vibey,
> powerful, lagre twin, oddball but attrative styling, wacky suspension, low
> maintinence final drive...
>
> Frankly, as Larry -xlax- pointed out, I could sit here and make excuses
for
> why I'll probably buy the R1100S over the technically superior Sprint (and
> probably VFR) or the faster Ducati, but that's exactly what they'd be:
> Excuses.  When I stand by it, when I look at it, when I sit on it, I'm
> simply mad about the Beemer.  You can't engineer that, and you can't buy
it
> as an optional extra.
>
> When it comes right down to it, if I'm spending this much on a bike, I'd
> better keep it in good shape.  And the Beemer is the only one I can see
> myself lovingly polishing and cleansing with S100 on a Sunday morning.
>
> Motorcycle Online had this to say about it:
> "In the realm of sport touring, the R1100S is pretty sporty. But, it's
also
> quite toury, too. In fact, we believe it's a near perfect combination of
> long distance capability and backroad prowess. Despite its numerous
> attributes, the S often is described as "different" by people who have
> never had the chance (read: pleasure) to spend any time on one."
>
> I pretty much agree.
>
> So I think I'll buy one.
>
> Two hours ago, a put a refundable $20 deposit on a '99 BMW R1100S at Cal
> BMW Triumph.  Now they can't sell it without asking me first.
>
> You can see a wee picture of the soon-to-be my bike on their site:
> http://www.calbmwtriumph.com/usedbk.html
>
> The specs:
> 1999 BMW R1100S in Mandarin Orange (I think)
> 6,000 miles (actually just under)
> Full Staintune exhaust system (sounds yummy, eliminates the cat:
> http://www.staintune.com/r1100s.htm)
> Upgraded BMW Sport Suspension
> Shorter Paralever link (raises rear end, quicker steering)
> Cylinder head protectors
> Low clipons
> Tall touring screen
> BMW City Bags
>
> The bike was bought and maintained at Cal BMW Triumph, so they have the
> full history.  It's been in for all services (even an early 6,000 miler,
so
> I don't have to do that).  The bike is being sold or consignment, so the
> salesman claimed to have very little room to move.  Which isn't
> unreasonable, as he's asking $2,000 less than Blue Book (which is for a
> bike with twice the miles).  I had also been planning to buy the exhaust,
> bags, Sport suspension, tall screen, and new Paralever link, so the fact
> that they're included is a major bonus.
>
> We ended up agreeing on their asking price for the bike plus just under
$1k
> for a 2 year extended service contract, but I got him to throw in a set of
> full size BMW bags for free.  I've put $20 down on the bike, and unless I
> change my mind, I'll be picking it up Thursday.
>
> I didn't steal it from them, but I'm quite happy with the deal I got.  A
> low miles beautifully maintained bike with about $4,000 in accessories I
> wanted anyway and almost three years of warrenty out the door for $2000
> less than retail for a comparable new one.
>
> I've got two days to think it over (and anyone who thinks I'm making a
> mistake has that long to convince me out of it) and then I'm going to
heard
> back and buy the thing.
>
> Tommorow I test ride the Ducati ST2 two-up.  Unless that manages to change
> my mind, the next step is coming up with names...
>
> Thanks to all for their advice, and Andrew, I -know- I'll miss the Sprint
> sometimes.  If I end up in the market for a sportbike, I fully plan to
stop
> by Triumph first.
>
> Reed.



At least you broadend your horizons before you made your final decision,
that is all anyone wanted you to do.  Not a bad way to spend a couple of
days eh?  [1]


--
Andrew
00 Daytona
http://ultrasupercool.com
[1]  Of course I had made the decision I was going to buy the Daytona the
minute I laid eyes on it, but Peckhammer and Bannon made me go test the
Falco.

"Reed Kennedy" <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote in message

> Or maybe what I really want is a R1100S after all.

Boy, and I thought that *I* was screwed up.  :)

What you need, Reed, is a Yamaha PB 50 scooter.  It has a powerful 50cc
two-stroke engine, a chain drive (in an oil bath), an automatic tranny and
those kewl double headlights inspired, no doubt, by the Triumph Speed
Triple.  It is your two-wheeled fantasy.

Nikita.

Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> When I stand by it, when I look at it, when I sit on it, I'm
> simply mad about the Beemer.  You can't engineer that, and you can't buy it
> as an optional extra.
>
> When it comes right down to it, if I'm spending this much on a bike, I'd
> better keep it in good shape.  And the Beemer is the only one I can see
> myself lovingly polishing and cleansing with S100 on a Sunday morning.

<grin> Welcome to my world, Reed.  I've been told it's too big, too
small, too powerful, not powerful enough, too cruisery, too standard,
really, everything I don't want it a bike.  And I've been told to buy
everything under the sun except for this bike, with all kinds of
justification behind it.  But no matter how you slice it, the Kawi
Eliminator 600 still makes my heart go pitter patter.  I pick mine up
this weekend.  Here it is, waiting in its current mommy's garage for
me.  http://home.pacbell.net/anng27/pretty/elimwaiting.jpg

We'll have to take our new babies out for a ride together soon.

So glad you're going to be forced(?) to shut up about it all, now.
<grin>

And, uh... weren't you gonna finish MSF before getting a >500cc bike?
<duck>

> 1999 BMW R1100S in Mandarin Orange (I think)

Oh lord.  I can't decide if we'll match or clash terribly.  Orange??!
At least we'll both be *visible*.

	-ann

On 28 Aug 2001 23:48:48 GMT, women fainted and men gasped when Reed
Kennedy <cornerSP@Mmail.com> casually remarked:

>Or maybe what I really want is a R1100S after all.

<snip>

great looking bike...I'm sure you'll love it as you've
already given the best reason you want it...because you
*like* it!  And that's the best reason I can think of!

cheers,



-aki

01 HD Dyna Wide Glide
85 700 Magna (sold)
85 V65 Magna (sold)
86 500 Shadow (sold)
sold! sold! sold!
AMA Lifemember...
DoD#0628...
HOG,MANS

"Reed Kennedy" <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns910BAB07E4F7Dcornermailcom@209.155.56.81...
> Or maybe what I really want is a R1100S after all.
> I just love that BMW.  It simply -feels- right to me.  I'll probably
offend
> both camps, but the R1100S strikes me as my Buell done right.  Vibey,
> powerful, lagre twin, oddball but attrative styling, wacky suspension, low
> maintinence final drive...
>

Looks good (and the right color too...). Sounds like this is the right bike
for you.

Congruts.

Ron.

Is that track ready?


Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> Nikita Synytskyy confessed to ba.motorcycles:
>
> >
> > "Reed Kennedy" <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >> Or maybe what I really want is a R1100S after all.
> >
> > Boy, and I thought that *I* was screwed up.  :)
> >
> > What you need, Reed, is a Yamaha PB 50 scooter.  It has a powerful 50cc
> > two-stroke engine, a chain drive (in an oil bath), an automatic tranny
> > and those kewl double headlights inspired, no doubt, by the Triumph
> > Speed Triple.  It is your two-wheeled fantasy.
>
> But I already have a Yamaha YSR50:
> http://flatrabbit.org/bike/ysr
>
> It's not automatic (thank god), but you're right about the headlight being
> rather, well, square, but doing a Speed Triple conversion to it would be
> interesting, in an offensive sort of way.
>
> Got a picture of the PB 50?
>
> Reed.
> --
> '78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
> '89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
> If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
> "My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

Nikita Synytskyy confessed to ba.motorcycles:

>
> "Reed Kennedy" <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote in message
>
>> Or maybe what I really want is a R1100S after all.
>
> Boy, and I thought that *I* was screwed up.  :)
>
> What you need, Reed, is a Yamaha PB 50 scooter.  It has a powerful 50cc
> two-stroke engine, a chain drive (in an oil bath), an automatic tranny
> and those kewl double headlights inspired, no doubt, by the Triumph
> Speed Triple.  It is your two-wheeled fantasy.

But I already have a Yamaha YSR50:
http://flatrabbit.org/bike/ysr

It's not automatic (thank god), but you're right about the headlight being
rather, well, square, but doing a Speed Triple conversion to it would be
interesting, in an offensive sort of way.

Got a picture of the PB 50?

Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

On Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:36:41 -0700, ann g
<anng27.hates.spam@pacbell.net> wrote:

>
>> 1999 BMW R1100S in Mandarin Orange (I think)
>
>Oh lord.  I can't decide if we'll match or clash terribly.  Orange??!
>At least we'll both be *visible*.

BMW's 'orange' is quite yellow.  I think he's drooling on one of
these... http://www.bmwscruz.com/BMW/1999/99r1100s_1.jpg

-jrp

Andrew confessed to ba.motorcycles:
<snip>
>> Thanks to all for their advice, and Andrew, I -know- I'll miss the
>> Sprint sometimes.  If I end up in the market for a sportbike, I fully
>> plan to stop by Triumph first.
>
> At least you broadend your horizons before you made your final
> decision, that is all anyone wanted you to do.

And y'all were certainly right.  The only experiance I had on bikes over
650ccs when I started looking at the S were the 27 miles on the Buell and
the 1,300 on the R1100R.  If I'd chosen a bike with that little experiance,
I would have not only risked making an expensive and silly mistake (Critta)
I also would have missed out on the fun of trying all these different
wonderful bikes.

Riding Triumphs and Ducatis durring this process has certainly expanded my
motorcycling horizons.

> Not a bad way to spend
> a couple of days eh?  [1]

Not at all.  There are certainly worse fates than spending a week of
mornings test riding beautiful and diverse bikes.

But I'm not done yet!  I have the ST2 to test 2-up tommorow, and if I get a
chance I'd still like to ride the VFR (and / or rent it with Nick).

> [1]  Of course I had made the decision I was going to buy the Daytona
> the minute I laid eyes on it, but Peckhammer and Bannon made me go test
> the Falco.

You poor thing.  Can't say I'm remotely suprised you went with the Daytona.
Isn't the Millie closer to competing with the Daytona than the Falco?

I sat on a Daytona at Cal BMW Triumph today.  Then I chastised myself and
distracted myself by looking at the Beemer.  Luckilly, it will be some time
before I'm ready for something like that.

All in all, I'm happy both with the entire process and the result.  But
then, who on the groups would be suprised that I liked getting to randomly
ride all sorts of bikes?

Thanks for the kick in the ass, Andrew.  If nothing else, I can (and
actually do) appreciate the Beemer better by having something worthy to
compare it to.

Now that I've got a bike that'll do some miles, perhaps I'll get to ride
with you, and you'll demonstrate triple superiority for me.  ::grin::

Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

Reed Kennedy wrote:

> Tommorow I test ride the Ducati ST2 two-up.  Unless that manages to change
> my mind, the next step is coming up with names...

Unless the ST2 has had a few minor mods (chip and exhaust, and a -1
countershaft sprocket), you will probably be a bit disappointed.  See if
you can test one so modified.

If you can get one with the full-floating cast-iron front rotors and a
Corbin, so much the better.

Enjoy!

Some Guy on a Bike confessed to ba.motorcycles:

> Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Tommorow I test ride the Ducati ST2 two-up.  Unless that manages to
>> change my mind, the next step is coming up with names...
>
> Unless the ST2 has had a few minor mods (chip and exhaust, and a -1
> countershaft sprocket),

It has a chip and a stock exhaust with drilled baffels (!?!?!).

I doubt I'd want to drop a front tooth on a bike that'll spend a bunch of
time touring / on highways.

> you will probably be a bit disappointed.  See
> if you can test one so modified.

Frankly, last time I rode this one, I was pleanty satisfied (although I
only got to ride it around town).  It seemed more than willing to pick up
it's front wheel, almost regardless of whether I knew how to deal with such
an event or not.

> If you can get one with the full-floating cast-iron front rotors and a
> Corbin, so much the better.

No Corbin on this one, though it would be getting one, were I to buy it.
Don't have any idea what the front brakes are, though I remember being
somewhat disapointed with them (though they were cold the whole time I was
riding).

Tommorow will basically be the deciding event.  If I decide to go with a
less expensive bike, it would likely be the Ducati.  If I'm going to spend
really serious money, I figure I might as well get the BMW.

At the same time, I'm still tempted by Jamin's ST1100.  I think that's the
only bike I might regret not owning if I bought the R1100S.

Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

On 28 Aug 2001 23:48:48 GMT, Reed Kennedy <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote:

>Or maybe what I really want is a R1100S after all.
>
>Ok.  I just came back from test riding the BMW R1100S and the Triumph
>Sprint ST back to back.  Let me put it this way:
>
>If I were writing a magazine review, the Triumph would win by a mile.  It's
>the better motorcycle.
>
>Now that we've got that out of the way...
>
>I just love that BMW.  It simply -feels- right to me.  I'll probably offend
>both camps, but the R1100S strikes me as my Buell done right.  Vibey,
>powerful, lagre twin, oddball but attrative styling, wacky suspension, low
>maintinence final drive...

Reed, that's all the reason you need to buy the bike.

It will be *years* before you can use whatever additional power another bike
might give you.  I spent about five hours chasing the tail light of Andy
Burnett's ST on Sunday...it's amazing what a good rider can do with a "normal"
motorcycle.

You'll like the Beemer.

Now *ride* instead of typing, 'k?

Joe Parsons

1995 R11Rs

>
>Frankly, as Larry -xlax- pointed out, I could sit here and make excuses for
>why I'll probably buy the R1100S over the technically superior Sprint (and
>probably VFR) or the faster Ducati, but that's exactly what they'd be:
>Excuses.  When I stand by it, when I look at it, when I sit on it, I'm
>simply mad about the Beemer.  You can't engineer that, and you can't buy it
>as an optional extra.
>
>When it comes right down to it, if I'm spending this much on a bike, I'd
>better keep it in good shape.  And the Beemer is the only one I can see
>myself lovingly polishing and cleansing with S100 on a Sunday morning.
>
>Motorcycle Online had this to say about it:
>"In the realm of sport touring, the R1100S is pretty sporty. But, it's also
>quite toury, too. In fact, we believe it's a near perfect combination of
>long distance capability and backroad prowess. Despite its numerous
>attributes, the S often is described as "different" by people who have
>never had the chance (read: pleasure) to spend any time on one."
>
>I pretty much agree.
>
>So I think I'll buy one.
>
>Two hours ago, a put a refundable $20 deposit on a '99 BMW R1100S at Cal
>BMW Triumph.  Now they can't sell it without asking me first.
>
>You can see a wee picture of the soon-to-be my bike on their site:
>http://www.calbmwtriumph.com/usedbk.html
>
>The specs:
>1999 BMW R1100S in Mandarin Orange (I think)
>6,000 miles (actually just under)
>Full Staintune exhaust system (sounds yummy, eliminates the cat:
>http://www.staintune.com/r1100s.htm)
>Upgraded BMW Sport Suspension
>Shorter Paralever link (raises rear end, quicker steering)
>Cylinder head protectors
>Low clipons
>Tall touring screen
>BMW City Bags
>
>The bike was bought and maintained at Cal BMW Triumph, so they have the
>full history.  It's been in for all services (even an early 6,000 miler, so
>I don't have to do that).  The bike is being sold or consignment, so the
>salesman claimed to have very little room to move.  Which isn't
>unreasonable, as he's asking $2,000 less than Blue Book (which is for a
>bike with twice the miles).  I had also been planning to buy the exhaust,
>bags, Sport suspension, tall screen, and new Paralever link, so the fact
>that they're included is a major bonus.
>
>We ended up agreeing on their asking price for the bike plus just under $1k
>for a 2 year extended service contract, but I got him to throw in a set of
>full size BMW bags for free.  I've put $20 down on the bike, and unless I
>change my mind, I'll be picking it up Thursday.
>
>I didn't steal it from them, but I'm quite happy with the deal I got.  A
>low miles beautifully maintained bike with about $4,000 in accessories I
>wanted anyway and almost three years of warrenty out the door for $2000
>less than retail for a comparable new one.
>
>I've got two days to think it over (and anyone who thinks I'm making a
>mistake has that long to convince me out of it) and then I'm going to heard
>back and buy the thing.
>
>Tommorow I test ride the Ducati ST2 two-up.  Unless that manages to change
>my mind, the next step is coming up with names...
>
>Thanks to all for their advice, and Andrew, I -know- I'll miss the Sprint
>sometimes.  If I end up in the market for a sportbike, I fully plan to stop
>by Triumph first.
>
>Reed.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Streaming Multimedia production and delivery--served with a SMILe
                     http://www.yankeemedia.net

Joe Parsons confessed to rec.motorcycles:

> On 28 Aug 2001 23:48:48 GMT, Reed Kennedy <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Or maybe what I really want is a R1100S after all.
>>
>>Ok.  I just came back from test riding the BMW R1100S and the Triumph
>>Sprint ST back to back.  Let me put it this way:
>>
>>If I were writing a magazine review, the Triumph would win by a mile.
>>It's the better motorcycle.
>>
>>Now that we've got that out of the way...
>>
>>I just love that BMW.  It simply -feels- right to me.  I'll probably
>>offend both camps, but the R1100S strikes me as my Buell done right.
>>Vibey, powerful, lagre twin, oddball but attrative styling, wacky
>>suspension, low maintinence final drive...
>
> Reed, that's all the reason you need to buy the bike.
>
> It will be *years* before you can use whatever additional power another
> bike might give you.  I spent about five hours chasing the tail light
> of Andy Burnett's ST on Sunday...it's amazing what a good rider can do
> with a "normal" motorcycle.

Good point.  I'll certainly have my hands full.  I watched motorcycle.com
onboard .mpgs of their testers wheelying and scraping engine casings on the
S.  As for now, I'll simply continue to dream of touching pegs and not
crashing.

> You'll like the Beemer.

I hope!

> Now *ride* instead of typing, 'k?

Standard Reed Usenet Disclaimer:

Any post you see with my full sig (as bellow) was posted from work, where
I'm paid to sit in front of the damn computer.  Any post without my full
sig is posted from home.  There are probably a total of 5 of those.  I
don't post when I could be riding.

I'm working on finding a job where I'm paid to ride, but that hasn't worked
out yet.  Plus, wouldn't y'all miss me?

Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

cornerSP@Mmail.com (Reed Kennedy) wrote in
<Xns910BD7478D896cornermailcom@209.155.56.100>:

>At the same time, I'm still tempted by Jamin's ST1100.  I think that's
>the only bike I might regret not owning if I bought the R1100S.

Judging by the bikes that have caught your interest, I think you'd find the
ST1100 to have all the character of a blender.  Kinda sounds like one even.
I say that as an ST owner who has been stranded by character
(other bikes) enough times to appreciate whirring little blenders.

ab

Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> Now that I've got a bike that'll do some miles, perhaps I'll get to ride
> with you, and you'll demonstrate triple superiority for me.  ::grin::

 Hell, -I- can do that for you. :~P Plus, I'm a lot closer.

 Steve 65

Andy Burnett confessed to ba.motorcycles:

> cornerSP@Mmail.com (Reed Kennedy) wrote in
><Xns910BD7478D896cornermailcom@209.155.56.100>:
>
>>At the same time, I'm still tempted by Jamin's ST1100.  I think that's
>>the only bike I might regret not owning if I bought the R1100S.
>
> Judging by the bikes that have caught your interest, I think you'd find
> the ST1100 to have all the character of a blender.  Kinda sounds like
> one even.  I say that as an ST owner who has been stranded by character
> (other bikes) enough times to appreciate whirring little blenders.
>
> ab
>

I was mainly enticed by the ST1100 for it's Nick Weaver Desirable
charecteristics.  Eating miles for breakfast lunch and dinner.  Great big
fairing.  Being able to talk to your pillion with visors up at 50mph.  300
mile tank range if you're good.  Stone reliable.  It's a bike that I know I
would really appreaciate.  OTOH, the Beemer seems like a bike I'd really -
love-, and when asked to choose between the two...

Frankly, I'm almost patting myself on the back for choosing a bike as
sensible as the Beemer, rather than an R1 or somesuch.  I know I'll be as
sensible as the ST some day, but I'd like to think I'm not really there
yet.

Of course, knowing that you humble riders with massive machinery on your ST
gives me a bit of perspective about what sort of bike I could actually make
use of.

Andy, any chance I could take a sit (not ride) on your ST if I see it and
you around in the near future?  I'm still curious as to how the ergos and
all work out on that bike.

I saw a black one at 2nd and Market today.  That wasn't you, was it?

Oh, would a R1100S fit in at Superbike School?

Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

Steve 65 confessed to rec.motorcycles:

>> Now that I've got a bike that'll do some miles, perhaps I'll get to ride
>> with you, and you'll demonstrate triple superiority for me.  ::grin::
>
>  Hell, -I- can do that for you. :~P Plus, I'm a lot closer.

Steve, you could utterly humble me on your Ascott.  Probably even in a
straight line, with my launching skillz.

Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

cornerSP@Mmail.com (Reed Kennedy) wrote in
<Xns910BDFF37F876cornermailcom@209.155.56.81>:

>Andy, any chance I could take a sit (not ride) on your ST if I see it
>and you around in the near future?

Sure thing.

>I saw a black one at 2nd and Market today.  That wasn't you, was it?

No, I wasn't near there and mine is silver.

>Oh, would a R1100S fit in at Superbike School?

You bet.

ab

Reed Kennedy wrote:

> I doubt I'd want to drop a front tooth on a bike that'll spend a bunch of
> time touring / on highways.

You might be surprised.  Ducatis are geared too tall to pass emissions,
and the magic touch is -1 on the countershaft.  For $26, you could try
it and see, and switch it back in about 10 minutes if you didn't like it.

> No Corbin on this one, though it would be getting one, were I to buy it.

All the difference in the world over the stock seat.

Andy Burnett confessed to rec.motorcycles:

>>Andy, any chance I could take a sit (not ride) on your ST if I see it
>>and you around in the near future?
>
> Sure thing.

Great, thanks!

>>Oh, would a R1100S fit in at Superbike School?
>
> You bet.

Wonderful!  Would you recomend Laguna Seca over Sears Point or vice-versa,
or does it really make little difference at my skill level?

Do you think I could be comfortable enough with my bike by November to make
it worthwhile, or would I be better off waiting until next year?

Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

On 28 Aug 2001 23:48:48 GMT, Reed Kennedy <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote:

>Two hours ago, a put a refundable $20 deposit on a '99 BMW R1100S at Cal
>BMW Triumph.  Now they can't sell it without asking me first.

Twenty bucks?  Now there's a commitment.

bub confessed to rec.motorcycles:
>
> Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Nikita Synytskyy confessed to ba.motorcycles:
>>
>> >
>> > "Reed Kennedy" <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote in message
>> >
>> >> Or maybe what I really want is a R1100S after all.
>> >
>> > Boy, and I thought that *I* was screwed up.  :)
>> >
>> > What you need, Reed, is a Yamaha PB 50 scooter.  It has a powerful
>> > 50cc two-stroke engine, a chain drive (in an oil bath), an automatic
>> > tranny and those kewl double headlights inspired, no doubt, by the
>> > Triumph Speed Triple.  It is your two-wheeled fantasy.
>>
>> But I already have a Yamaha YSR50: http://flatrabbit.org/bike/ysr
>>
>> It's not automatic (thank god), but you're right about the headlight
>> being rather, well, square, but doing a Speed Triple conversion to it
>> would be interesting, in an offensive sort of way.
>>
>> Got a picture of the PB 50?
>
> Is that track ready?

I still need to pull the lights off, but more or less.

Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

In article <3B8C8D79.43353977@pacbell.net>, ann g
<anng27.hates.spam@pacbell.net> wrote:

> And, uh... weren't you gonna finish MSF before getting a >500cc bike?

He did.

--
Denise   AFM #732  denise dot howard at home dot com
'88 EX250 racebike
'89 EX500 racebike
'00 SV650
'00 929

Denise Howard confessed to rec.motorcycles:

> In article <3B8C8D79.43353977@pacbell.net>, ann g
><anng27.hates.spam@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> And, uh... weren't you gonna finish MSF before getting a >500cc bike?
>
> He did.

Uhm...  Technically, I still have the last class to go.  I asked if I could
reschedule my last class, and they said they would.  In fact, they put me
on standby.  I've shown up twice and not gotten in twice.  Frankly, I'm
pretty damn sick of it all and not at all thrilled with planning more
weekends around a class I won't get into.

Yeah, I need to finish it.

It also needs to be less of a fuckin' hassle.

Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

ann g confessed to rec.motorcycles:

> Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> When I stand by it, when I look at it, when I sit on it, I'm
>> simply mad about the Beemer.  You can't engineer that, and you can't
>> buy it as an optional extra.
>>
>> When it comes right down to it, if I'm spending this much on a bike,
>> I'd better keep it in good shape.  And the Beemer is the only one I
>> can see myself lovingly polishing and cleansing with S100 on a Sunday
>> morning.
>
><grin> Welcome to my world, Reed.  I've been told it's too big, too
> small, too powerful, not powerful enough, too cruisery, too standard,
> really, everything I don't want it a bike.  And I've been told to buy
> everything under the sun except for this bike, with all kinds of
> justification behind it.  But no matter how you slice it, the Kawi
> Eliminator 600 still makes my heart go pitter patter.  I pick mine up
> this weekend.  Here it is, waiting in its current mommy's garage for
> me.  http://home.pacbell.net/anng27/pretty/elimwaiting.jpg

Lets enjoy 'em bunchs, just to spite them all!

> We'll have to take our new babies out for a ride together soon.

Incompetent Newbies:  Out In Force.

> So glad you're going to be forced(?) to shut up about it all, now.
><grin>

Oh?  I am?  I was planning on blathering about it excessively.  I still
have a Ducati test ride to post about tommorow, maybe a VFR test ride, and
then a review to write when I've ridden it for a week or so, then another
after my first road trip...

You should be so lucky as to have me shut up.

> And, uh... weren't you gonna finish MSF before getting a >500cc bike?
><duck>

You mean, like my NX-650-? Or my SR500 bored out to 580ccs?

Er, Shhh!  I tried to finish it...  Hopefully some day, they'll let me in.

>> 1999 BMW R1100S in Mandarin Orange (I think)
>
> Oh lord.  I can't decide if we'll match or clash terribly.

Arguabely, it's yellow, depending on who you ask.

Mine's the same color as Dan's Mr. B used to be:
http://www.idiom.com/~pedantic/misterb.html
particularly,
http://www.idiom.com/~pedantic/pics/bike1.jpg

So it's probably a bit brighter, and definately a lot cooler.  ::grin::

I'm sure we'll manage.

> Orange??!
> At least we'll both be *visible*.

Oh, damn.  Maybe I can tape dark garbage bags to it and make up for it by
wearing all dark leathers...

I'm going to bed.  Zonk.
Reed.
--
'78 SR500 Custom "Critta Isshy, AKA Wicked Little Critta" (For Sale)
'89 Honda NX650 "Sprout" || DOD #: 10^3
If you're here for the spelling, you've come to the wrong place.
"My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus." -Jimmy Buffett

"Reed Kennedy" <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote
>
> Got a picture of the PB 50?
>

Yeah, kinda....  Yamaha PB turns out to be something else.  This is what I
meant though:

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/news/98-04-21/bws-e.html

It's for sale in Japan and in Canada.  Don't know if it's available in the
US though.


Nikita.

Denise Howard wrote:

>> And, uh... weren't you gonna finish MSF before getting a >500cc bike?

> He did.

When?  Last I heard from him, he was half done.

ann g wrote:

> And I've been told to buy
> everything under the sun except for this bike, with all kinds of
> justification behind it.

You've also been told, repeatedly, to go get it.  I;{>

In article <3B8C8D79.43353977@pacbell.net>,
 ann g <anng27.hates.spam@pacbell.net> wrote:

<snip>
> justification behind it.  But no matter how you slice it, the Kawi
> Eliminator 600 still makes my heart go pitter patter.  I pick mine up
> this weekend.  Here it is, waiting in its current mommy's garage for
> me.  http://home.pacbell.net/anng27/pretty/elimwaiting.jpg

<snip>
> > 1999 BMW R1100S in Mandarin Orange (I think)
>
> Oh lord.  I can't decide if we'll match or clash terribly.  Orange??!
> At least we'll both be *visible*.


In article <j48potk13adr8pcscnh9b478gs8d3q6qgl@4ax.com>,
 John R Pierce <spam@is.invalid> wrote:

> BMW's 'orange' is quite yellow.  I think he's drooling on one of
> these... http://www.bmwscruz.com/BMW/1999/99r1100s_1.jpg

First, my qualifications...
1. When walking through neighborhoods in San Francisco, I critique
houses according to their paint schemes; I hate my grey house; and I
painted my kitchen in Neapolitan Ice Cream colors. :-)

2. I've read Robin Williams' books on type, layour and design. I
understand and apply her four basic design principles, C. R. A. P.:
Contrast, Repetition, Alignment, and Proximity. I understand the
difference between Contrast and Conflict.


Trust me ... that's not contrast, that's conflict. Not just in paint
schemes but in bike styles. I think the only way you can get away with
riding together is for both of you to wear Aerostich Radioactive Mr.
Smithers suits. }: )

--
Timberwoof <timberwoof at infernosoft dot com>
a motorcycle faq: http://www.infernosoft.com/timberwoof/motorcycle/faq.shtml

In article <3B8C8D79.43353977@pacbell.net>,
 ann g <anng27.hates.spam@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Reed Kennedy wrote:
> >
> > When I stand by it, when I look at it, when I sit on it, I'm
> > simply mad about the Beemer.  You can't engineer that, and you can't buy it
> > as an optional extra.
> >
> > When it comes right down to it, if I'm spending this much on a bike, I'd
> > better keep it in good shape.  And the Beemer is the only one I can see
> > myself lovingly polishing and cleansing with S100 on a Sunday morning.

Get the Beemer, Reed.

> <grin> Welcome to my world, Reed.  I've been told it's too big, too
> small,

Which means it's probably Just Right.


>too powerful, not powerful enough,

Which means it's probably Just Right.

> too cruisery, too standard,

Which means it's probably too standard, which means it's probably Just
Right.

> really, everything I don't want it a bike.  And I've been told to buy
> everything under the sun except for this bike, with all kinds of
> justification behind it.  But no matter how you slice it, the Kawi
> Eliminator 600 still makes my heart go pitter patter.

Which means it's probably Just Right.

> I pick mine up
> this weekend.  Here it is, waiting in its current mommy's garage for
> me.  http://home.pacbell.net/anng27/pretty/elimwaiting.jpg

I wouldn't buy a bike like that, but who the hell am I? I know what *I*
like, but that doesn't qualify me to tell you what you like. It's a nice
looking bike. I particularly like the warp nacelle under the saddlebag.
Is there a matching one on the left side?

May it bring you many miles and hours of happiness. :-)

--
Timberwoof <timberwoof at infernosoft dot com>
a motorcycle faq: http://www.infernosoft.com/timberwoof/motorcycle/faq.shtml

Reed Kennedy <cornerSP@Mmail.com> wrote in message >
> And y'all were certainly right.  The only experiance I had on bikes over
> 650ccs when I started looking at the S were the 27 miles on the Buell and
> the 1,300 on the R1100R.  If I'd chosen a bike with that little
experiance,
> I would have not only risked making an expensive and silly mistake
(Critta)
> I also would have missed out on the fun of trying all these different
> wonderful bikes.

Its your money and all, but do you think you are really ready for a bike of
the caliber you've been looking at?

--
Mark S. Hamlin
Corralitos, CA  USA
2000 MZ Black Panther
1997 Yamaha YZF600R
1985 BMW K100

cornerSP@Mmail.com (Reed Kennedy) wrote in
<Xns910BE8EE61D9Bcornermailcom@209.155.56.81>:

>Wonderful!  Would you recomend Laguna Seca over Sears Point or
>vice-versa, or does it really make little difference at my skill level?

I don't think it makes much difference regardless of skill level.  They are
very different tracks to be sure, but you can learn what we teach either
place.  Laguna is faster, Sears is bumpier and both are big fun.

>Do you think I could be comfortable enough with my bike by November to
>make it worthwhile, or would I be better off waiting until next year?

I can't see a reason to wait, though getting a spot in November might be
tough.  These schools are usually booked way in advance, but if you call
the school you can get onto a waiing list if there are no openings.
Between now and then there's a chance that someone will cancel and vacate a
spot for you.

ab