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"Sandy A. Nicolaysen" <sandynic@erols.com> wrote in message
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> Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
> expect this to work?  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
> already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?
>


The dish and LNB itself don't seem to matter (I switch dish and DirecTV
receivers on the same dish). Since I fulltime in the RV, when I visit
someone who has a dish already, I just hook my receiver up instead of theirs
at their home. (I have distant networks and movie channels).

Most rv's have an amplifier that blocks the voltage needed by the LNB's, but
the OUT TO TV on the back of the sat receiver can go to the cable TV input
and then to all the TV's in the RV via the existing cable. (IE dish to sat
receiver, and the output from that to the existing wires).

"Sandy A. Nicolaysen" <sandynic@erols.com> wrote in message
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> Hi:  Looking for advice from any RVer with Dish Network.  I have a sat
> dish at home with 3 receivers.  I want to put 1 of the 3 receivers in
> the RV during the summer season.  This means buying a second dish and
> LNB for use with the RV.
>
> $Camping World$ sells the Winegard PM-2000 for $200, though I've found
> the exact same unit elsewhere for $61 (no surprise there).
>
> Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
> expect this to work?  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
> already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards, - Sandy
> ----------------------------
I have two receivers for Dish 500 in my home. I take the one that normally
is in my bedroom with me on RV trips. I bought a dish for the Dish 500 at an
authorized dealer for $100 and mounted on a tripod, and the setup works
perfectly fine. The only time I have had a problem was when I left the
receiver in my RV for an extended period between trips and Dish Network sent
out information to all its active recievers that changed the receiver
settings. The next trip I took, I wasn't able to access the Dish satellite
that has my local channels. At first,I thought I might have a malfunction in
one of the LNB's, because the dish was blown over by a hard gust of wind and
hit the ground pretty hard as I was setting it up, however,  when I got home
I put the receiver back in the house and hooked it back up to my home system
and it still wouldn't access my local channels when I first turned it on.
About a week later, however, I turned the TV back on and my local channels
were back on, so I assume my receiver had missed a Dish update while it had
been turned off.  You will not be able to use your regular RV TV cable to
access the satellite dish. Unless you're lazy or cheap like me and just run
coax through a door or window, you'll have to get your RV wired for
satellite with both outside and inside plugs to be able to hook your
receiver up to your dish.

Gary in N. Texas

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:49:41 -0500, Sandy A. Nicolaysen
<sandynic@erols.com> wrote:

>Hi:  Looking for advice from any RVer with Dish Network.  I have a sat
>dish at home with 3 receivers.  I want to put 1 of the 3 receivers in
>the RV during the summer season.  This means buying a second dish and
>LNB for use with the RV.
>
>$Camping World$ sells the Winegard PM-2000 for $200, though I've found
>the exact same unit elsewhere for $61 (no surprise there).
>
>Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
>expect this to work?  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
>already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?
>
>Any help greatly appreciated.
>
>Regards, - Sandy

Well, I've got a dish and receiver in my garage you are welcome to, if
you come through here.  I'm gonna put them in the trash before too
long.

Bob
www.arcatapet.net/bobgiddings

Current email at:
bobgiddings0 at yahoo dot com

In article <i8nq30dcc2n0fk5n0vdoqnr1h492s9shr3@4ax.com>, Sandy A. Nicolaysen
<sandynic@erols.com> writes:

>Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
>expect this to work?

Yes.

>  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
>already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?

Probably not, depending upon how your RV is designed. It won't work via the
cable connection, and you wouldn't want it to. From time to time you will be in
a campground which has cable, and where you can't get a signal for Dish.

I bought a fancy dish to use when the automatic rooftop dish won't work, and it
was a mistake. One of these days I'm gonna find time to design several mounts
for a typical house mounted dish, and switch over to the one I picked up for $5
at a garage sale. I'm also gonna mount another one high in a tree overlooking
the knoll upon which we park at my brother's property in the north woods.

I would suggest the most simple and inexpensive dish you can find, and a little
creativity so you can clamp it to a picnic table, to the ladder on your RV, or
to a fence rail. Anything to get it off the ground, and aimed at an opening in
the trees.

Another idea is a cheap tripod from Radio Shack and some PVC. If you insist
upon local channels, and the dish 500 system, or re-aiming your dish from 110
to 119, then all bets are off. We stick with the top 100, and pull the local
channels with the bat wing and booster. One set-up on 119 is good for our
entire stay. Thankfully, Winnebago set us up with a control box so a push of
the button changes us from the Dish to the antenna.

Lon

I just bought a Dish500 dish on ebay for $40 and the Bullseye portable
dishmount from http://www.rvdishmount.com/ for $65+s/h for our RV.  I should
have a chance to test out the setup this weekend and will post my results.

I will also be adding an X10 Nightwatch Wireless low light camera to my
existing X10 WideEye wireless for the rear-view setup.  The WideEye has
worked great so far (for a $250 setup), but if anyone knows how to mirror
the image on an LCD TV, please let me know.

Steve


"Sandy A. Nicolaysen" <sandynic@erols.com> wrote in message
news:i8nq30dcc2n0fk5n0vdoqnr1h492s9shr3@4ax.com...
> Hi:  Looking for advice from any RVer with Dish Network.  I have a sat
> dish at home with 3 receivers.  I want to put 1 of the 3 receivers in
> the RV during the summer season.  This means buying a second dish and
> LNB for use with the RV.
>
> $Camping World$ sells the Winegard PM-2000 for $200, though I've found
> the exact same unit elsewhere for $61 (no surprise there).
>
> Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
> expect this to work?  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
> already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards, - Sandy
>

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:49:41 -0500, Sandy A. Nicolaysen
<sandynic@erols.com> wrote:

>Hi:  Looking for advice from any RVer with Dish Network.  I have a sat
>dish at home with 3 receivers.  I want to put 1 of the 3 receivers in
>the RV during the summer season.  This means buying a second dish and
>LNB for use with the RV.
>
>$Camping World$ sells the Winegard PM-2000 for $200, though I've found
>the exact same unit elsewhere for $61 (no surprise there).
>
>Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
>expect this to work?  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
>already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?
>
>Any help greatly appreciated.
>
>Regards, - Sandy
Sandy, I have four Dish receivers.  One is for the trailer with an old
300 dish.  I can only get 110.  If I want both 110 and 119 I have to
get a Dish 500 which is slightly bigger.
Per Dish Network, you can do what you are asking with no problem.
When you set up you simply program the zip-code into the receiver and
you're set.
Re: feeding the signal.  From Dish FAQ:   "It requires RG-6 coaxial
cable with no splitters from the dish antenna to receiver. This makes
most existing cable wirings incompatible with DISH Network because it
can not carry an adequate signal."

I have an 88 Holiday Rambler which was built before Dish Network was
around.  I have no problem using the trailer's existing cable wiring.
Works great.  Currently receiving 120 strength signal.

Don't forget, you need a 20" dish with dual LNBF to receive 110 and
119. (model 500)
Dish Network sells the 20" dish which includes the hardware and the
dual LNBF for about $150 inc. S&H.  I don't know how much they are at
retailers.
I'm gonna check E-bay to see if there are any dishes for sale.
Good luck
Eddie

"Sandy A. Nicolaysen" wrote:

> Hi:  Looking for advice from any RVer with Dish Network.  I have a sat
> dish at home with 3 receivers.  I want to put 1 of the 3 receivers in
> the RV during the summer season.  This means buying a second dish and
> LNB for use with the RV.
>
> $Camping World$ sells the Winegard PM-2000 for $200, though I've found
> the exact same unit elsewhere for $61 (no surprise there).
>
> Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
> expect this to work?  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
> already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards, - Sandy

I hook my dish directly to the RV wiring and it works great.  I did,
however, disconnect the signal amplifier instead of simply switching it
off in order to avoid switching it on accidentally.  While I've never
tested myself, I heard that you can fry your sat receiver with an
amplified signal.  I just didn't feel it was worth taking unnecessary
risks in case there is any truth to that.

I can fasten my dish to my ladder, but I also carry a tripod and a longer
coax for the odd time when the m/h is parked where a signal is not
available.

Paul

rvnnow@aol.com (Lon VanOstran) wrote in message news:<20040225225503.15923.00004031@mb-m12.aol.com>...
> In article <i8nq30dcc2n0fk5n0vdoqnr1h492s9shr3@4ax.com>, Sandy A. Nicolaysen
> <sandynic@erols.com> writes:
>
> >Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
> >expect this to work?
>
> Yes.
>
> >  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
> >already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?
>
> Probably not, depending upon how your RV is designed. It won't work via the
> cable connection, and you wouldn't want it to. From time to time you will be in
> a campground which has cable, and where you can't get a signal for Dish.
>
> I bought a fancy dish to use when the automatic rooftop dish won't work, and it
> was a mistake. One of these days I'm gonna find time to design several mounts
> for a typical house mounted dish, and switch over to the one I picked up for $5
> at a garage sale. I'm also gonna mount another one high in a tree overlooking
> the knoll upon which we park at my brother's property in the north woods.
>
> I would suggest the most simple and inexpensive dish you can find, and a little
> creativity so you can clamp it to a picnic table, to the ladder on your RV, or
> to a fence rail. Anything to get it off the ground, and aimed at an opening in
> the trees.
>
> Another idea is a cheap tripod from Radio Shack and some PVC. If you insist
> upon local channels, and the dish 500 system, or re-aiming your dish from 110
> to 119, then all bets are off. We stick with the top 100, and pull the local
> channels with the bat wing and booster. One set-up on 119 is good for our
> entire stay. Thankfully, Winnebago set us up with a control box so a push of
> the button changes us from the Dish to the antenna.
>
> Lon
I puchased a new dish 500pro (dual lmb with no additional swithing
needed) on ebay for $60.00 and ordered a tripod. I previously used the
old dish 300 but this cut off a lot of my movie channels and of course
the locals. setting up the 500 was a little bit trickier but none the
less very doable.  I had checked with my local dish dealer and he as
lon indicated said no can do with the internal cable system, ibought a
slim connecter which goes through the window and connects to a cable
to the box inside and the cable to the dish outside. hope this helps

festis1

Sandy

I pull my receiver out of my bedroom when I go camping and use
a portable dish 300 on a tripod I bought online. As for feeding the
signal through the existing cable TV wiring, I was wondering what
the effect the power amplifier would have on the receiver it turned
on accidentally. So I bought a flat cable made especially to be run
through windows and doors from CW to get around installing a new
interior/exterior receptacle

Frank Howell
"Sandy A. Nicolaysen" <sandynic@erols.com> wrote in message
news:i8nq30dcc2n0fk5n0vdoqnr1h492s9shr3@4ax.com...
> Hi:  Looking for advice from any RVer with Dish Network.  I have a sat
> dish at home with 3 receivers.  I want to put 1 of the 3 receivers in
> the RV during the summer season.  This means buying a second dish and
> LNB for use with the RV.
>
> $Camping World$ sells the Winegard PM-2000 for $200, though I've found
> the exact same unit elsewhere for $61 (no surprise there).
>
> Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
> expect this to work?  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
> already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards, - Sandy
>

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:10:16 -0800, "Peter Pan"
<Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:



>The dish and LNB itself don't seem to matter (I switch dish and DirecTV
>receivers on the same dish). Since I fulltime in the RV, when I visit
>someone who has a dish already, I just hook my receiver up instead of theirs
>at their home. (I have distant networks and movie channels).
>


Can you expand of this a little?  I have a Dish 500 home mounted, but
would like to use DirectTV and their box.  How much repositioning has
to be done.  The 500 is dual lnb and hits both sats, the way it is
now.  I am guessing the DirectTv is aimed off of the line that Dish is
on now, right?
--

Thanks..

HT

"ht" <Munged89Roadtrek@ADDRESSmyrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:9kis30t1cp4j9r50ginnohb46aqiself5b@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:10:16 -0800, "Peter Pan"
> <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >The dish and LNB itself don't seem to matter (I switch dish and DirecTV
> >receivers on the same dish). Since I fulltime in the RV, when I visit
> >someone who has a dish already, I just hook my receiver up instead of
theirs
> >at their home. (I have distant networks and movie channels).
> >
>
>
> Can you expand of this a little?  I have a Dish 500 home mounted, but
> would like to use DirectTV and their box.  How much repositioning has
> to be done.  The 500 is dual lnb and hits both sats, the way it is
> now.  I am guessing the DirectTv is aimed off of the line that Dish is
> on now, right?
> --
>
> Thanks..
>
> HT

Unfortunately they are different sats. I can only use my DirecTV receiver
with people that have a fixed antenna aimed at the DirecTV sat, but
generically, when at a campground and people have tripods or roof mounted
dishes for either, I can generally hook to em, and having all the major
movie channels (like HBO/Cinemax etc), usually persuades them. Remember, I
fulltime so  most of the people I know are other RV'rs.

The point I was trying to get across is that the dish and LNB don't seem to
matter or care what service they are used with, no matter what name is
painted on em. Electrically they are the same.

PS: If you have been reading this NG you may think aiming a dish is hard, it
only takes me about a  minute or so. Most receivers have an audio signal
level built in to em, just turn up the sound on the TV and move it back and
forth until the high pitch tone is heard.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 21:49:41 -0500, Sandy A. Nicolaysen
<sandynic@erols.com> wrote:

>Hi:  Looking for advice from any RVer with Dish Network.  I have a sat
>dish at home with 3 receivers.  I want to put 1 of the 3 receivers in
>the RV during the summer season.  This means buying a second dish and
>LNB for use with the RV.
>
>$Camping World$ sells the Winegard PM-2000 for $200, though I've found
>the exact same unit elsewhere for $61 (no surprise there).
>
>Can I buy another dish, connect it to the receiver used from home, and
>expect this to work?  Is there a way to feed the signal through the
>already existing cable TV wiring in the RV?
>
>Any help greatly appreciated.
>
Thank you everybody for the great info!  I'm not an E-Bay expert, but
I'll see if I can get some sort of deal there.

There are no small shops here in Princeton NJ that sell sat equipment.
Everything is dealt with Radio Shack or some other giant electronics
chain.

It used to be you could go to somebody you knew that owned a small
electronics store and work a deal for exactly what you wanted.  Those
days are gone forever around here.

Regards, - Sandy

>Hi:  Looking for advice from any RVer with Dish Network.  I have a sat
>dish at home with 3 receivers.  I want to put 1 of the 3 receivers in
>the RV during the summer season.  This means buying a second dish and
>LNB for use with the RV

Sandy contact your dish supplier, they will often give you a second antenna

>  This means buying a second dish and
>>LNB for use with the RV.

Hi.....Just noticed this part of your post. If you've been a Dish
customer for more than 2 years, you can call 1-800-333-DISH and tell
them you need a new LNB. They will have a local dealer come out and
install a new dish500 dish and double LNB for you FREE. No new
commitment required. Your old receivers will still work.  Once you're a
valued customer they want to keep you. I had to do this recently and was
really surprised.  Hope this helps.....Jim

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:32:42 GMT, "Paul K." <"momi<remove>"@dowco.com>
wrote:
>
>I hook my dish directly to the RV wiring and it works great.  I did,

I think it depends on which model of receiver you have.  Mine for some
reason requires RG-6.  I have tried short lengths of RG-59 and the
receiver thinks the coax has been cut.  I suspect the problem to be
bandwidth but I haven't cared enough to research it.  The point is, it
won't work with the normal cable tv hookup that comes with the rv.
Some will.

>
>I can fasten my dish to my ladder, but I also carry a tripod and a longer
>coax for the odd time when the m/h is parked where a signal is not
>available.

I use a tripod and pvc pipe purchased from Radio Shack and hardware
store.  It is the most versatile setup.  Sometimes I have to set the
dish a long way from the RV in order to get over a tree line, hill,
etc but I've always managed to get a picture.  I find the setup to be
very easy.  I don't pay particular attention to level so it sometimes
takes a little while to find the sat as the elevation markers are not
relevant but it still works really well.

By the way, if you use a receiver that is not normally connected
and/or "on", Direct TV doesn't like that too much and I have to call
and tell them to turn the receiver back on.  Kind of a pain but a
minor inconvienence if you have cell service.

I also run the audio from the receiver to the aux input of the cheap
tape/radio in the RV.  Not surround sound but better than most smaller
TV's.

I don't full time but I've used this system for 4-5 years and it works
for us.

"MrRagtime" <mrragtime@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I too have a Winegard unit that sits on the ground with 100 ft cable.  As a
> full-timer for many years, I have been happy with it. (I paid $150)
>
> BUT, you didn't mention the year of your RV.  On older coaches, the wiring
from
> the service compartment will not work.

That depends on the OLD coach!! My 1986 Avion came with RG-6 cable installed.
I use the receptacle for park cable to power my dish with no problems.

Tom J

I too have a Winegard unit that sits on the ground with 100 ft cable.  As a
full-timer for many years, I have been happy with it. (I paid $150)

BUT, you didn't mention the year of your RV.  On older coaches, the wiring from
the service compartment will not work.  Since the dish has become popular,
newer coaches have the proper wire.  I added one jack on each side of the coach
and ran the wire(s) to the receiver above the front right front window

MrRagtime