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On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 10:10:11 +0000, David wrote:

> <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>
>
> This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the
> text to take you to your chosen option.
>
> I just get white background and no chevron (so no option).
>
> I am corresponding (slowly) with their help desk, but am wondering if
> this is a browser or OS specific issue.
>
> When I have encountered this in the past on other systems, it has often
> been one of two things:
>
> (1) In house use of a specific manufacturer and browser, e.g. Apple
> systems.
>
> (2) The web page relies on something in the "in house" environment such
> as a local file so it only works on the company's internal LAN.
>
> I have the same result on W10 using Chrome and Edge.
> I also can replicate on my Samsung Galaxy pad using the Samsung browser.
>
> Independent tests would be most helpful.

Looks as though you have to allow all cookies for the site and an
associated site.

I have managed to find a browser which doesn't automatically block
cookies, or had "block cookies" selected for the site.
I haven't yet worked out how to allow all cookies again once they have
been blocked.

All very frustrating.

Cheers



Dave R



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David wrote:

> <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>
>
> This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the text
> to take you to your chosen option.

Only the header section has a black background, rest of page is white,
no chevrons.  checked with firefox (my everyday browser which has
ads/cookies blocked aggressively) and chrome (with no blocking).

clicking on the text of what I would expect to be links does nothing,
clicking slightly to the right (perhaps where the chevrons ought to
appear) does follow the link.

ICBA to debug the html/css

Andy Burns wrote:
> David wrote:
>
>> <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>
>>
>> This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the text
>> to take you to your chosen option.
>
> Only the header section has a black background, rest of page is white,
> no chevrons.  checked with firefox (my everyday browser which has
> ads/cookies blocked aggressively) and chrome (with no blocking).
>
> clicking on the text of what I would expect to be links does nothing,
> clicking slightly to the right (perhaps where the chevrons ought to
> appear) does follow the link.

SeaMonkey: nothing like you describe.

Chrome: much as described by Any Burns

Firefox: again, much as described by Any Burns, but the chevron I tested
does work and takes me to the expected page.

In all cases, have to accept cookies (in 3 different places).  Thin is
on a W7 Pro PC with the most modern browser versions that will work on
the PC.

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On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 11:49:35 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> David wrote:
>
>> <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>
>>
>> This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the
>> text to take you to your chosen option.
>
> Only the header section has a black background, rest of page is white,
> no chevrons.  checked with firefox (my everyday browser which has
> ads/cookies blocked aggressively) and chrome (with no blocking).
>
> clicking on the text of what I would expect to be links does nothing,
> clicking slightly to the right (perhaps where the chevrons ought to
> appear) does follow the link.
>
> ICBA to debug the html/css

Thank you.
Very useful.
I hadn't considered that the chevron might be there but concealed.

I have already fired off a grump-o-gram telling them they are very user
aggressive.

Cheers



Dave R


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David <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Looks as though you have to allow all cookies for the site and an
> associated site.
>
> I have managed to find a browser which doesn't automatically block
> cookies, or had "block cookies" selected for the site.
> I haven't yet worked out how to allow all cookies again once they have
> been blocked.

Often incognito mode can help with this - new incognito window, allow
cookies for the site, do whatever you need to, close the window and throw
away the cookies.  Although if the browser blocks third party cookies as a
rule you may need to turn them on, eg:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/third-party-cookies-firefox-tracking-protection
(I don't know if that setting persists before normal and incognito mode)

Theo

In article <mal5s3F9k92U1@mid.individual.net>, wibble@btinternet.com
says...
>
><https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>
>
>This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the text
>to take you to your chosen option.
>
>I just get white background and no chevron (so no option).
>

White background on Chrome, Edge and Firefox.
Multiple HTML and CSS errors when run through a validator.

Using the Development Tools Inspector (press F12 in most browsers) I see
that:

<main class="content-main">

The class "content-main" (which is the area you want to be black) has
"background-color" set to "var(--bs-body-bg)" which is assigned a value
of  #fff (white).  So it's displaying as written/generated.

Detailed debugging of generated code is something I regard as self-
harm...

I haven't spotted any chevrons.  It could be useful to know exactly
where to look.
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Phil, London

Philip Herlihy wrote:

> I haven't spotted any chevrons.  It could be useful to know exactly
> where to look.

I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element,
something like

a.chevron-link-class::after { c }

Andy Burns wrote:

> Philip Herlihy wrote:
>
>> I haven't spotted any chevrons.  It could be useful to know exactly
>> where to look.
>
> I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element,
> something like
>
> a.chevron-link-class::after { c }

s/=/:

In article <maoejqF97j4U2@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
says...
>
>Philip Herlihy wrote:
>
>> I haven't spotted any chevrons.  It could be useful to know exactly
>> where to look.
>
>I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element,
>something like
>
>a.chevron-link-class: after { c }

That would do it, but it would show up in the "Computed Styles" tab on
the development environment (- I think: it's been a while since I had
any fluency with this!)

CSS can be baffling if you're not up-to-date.  I remember my puzzlement
over a page I was trying to understand which had a "media query" in the
code.  For the uninitiated, a media query applies different formatting
rules e.g. if the viewport width shrinks below a certain size.

Anyway, if the OP specifies exactly where the chevrons are supposed to
be, at some point this week I might get a chance to see if they are in
the code at all (visible in the rendered display or not).

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On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:06:06 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:

> In article <maoejqF97j4U2@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
> says...
>>
>>Philip Herlihy wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't spotted any chevrons.  It could be useful to know exactly
>>> where to look.
>>
>>I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element,
>>something like
>>
>>a.chevron-link-class: after { c }
>
> That would do it, but it would show up in the "Computed Styles" tab on
> the development environment (- I think: it's been a while since I had
> any fluency with this!)
>
> CSS can be baffling if you're not up-to-date.  I remember my puzzlement
> over a page I was trying to understand which had a "media query" in the
> code.  For the uninitiated, a media query applies different formatting
> rules e.g. if the viewport width shrinks below a certain size.
>
> Anyway, if the OP specifies exactly where the chevrons are supposed to
> be, at some point this week I might get a chance to see if they are in
> the code at all (visible in the rendered display or not).
>
> --

Just got back to this.
Will try and post a screen shot.


Cheers



Dave R


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On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 17:17:26 +0000, David wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 12:06:06 +0100, Philip Herlihy wrote:
>
>> In article <maoejqF97j4U2@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
>> says...
>>>
>>>Philip Herlihy wrote:
>>>
>>>> I haven't spotted any chevrons.  It could be useful to know exactly
>>>> where to look.
>>>
>>>I suspect they *might* be intended to be inserted by a pseudo-element,
>>>something like
>>>
>>>a.chevron-link-class: after { c }
>>
>> That would do it, but it would show up in the "Computed Styles" tab on
>> the development environment (- I think: it's been a while since I had
>> any fluency with this!)
>>
>> CSS can be baffling if you're not up-to-date.  I remember my puzzlement
>> over a page I was trying to understand which had a "media query" in the
>> code.  For the uninitiated, a media query applies different formatting
>> rules e.g. if the viewport width shrinks below a certain size.
>>
>> Anyway, if the OP specifies exactly where the chevrons are supposed to
>> be, at some point this week I might get a chance to see if they are in
>> the code at all (visible in the rendered display or not).
>>
>> --
>
> Just got back to this.
> Will try and post a screen shot.

Apologies for lack of progress, but I have had other urgent things to do.

I will try to come back to this.

Cheers



Dave R



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On 08/06/2025 11:10, David wrote:
> <https://www.hughes.co.uk/Hughes-Voucher-Codes-Discounts>
>
> This should have a black background and chevrons to the right of the text
> to take you to your chosen option.
>
> I just get white background and no chevron (so no option).
>
> I am corresponding (slowly) with their help desk, but am wondering if this
> is a browser or OS specific issue.
>
> When I have encountered this in the past on other systems, it has often
> been one of two things:
>
> (1) In house use of a specific manufacturer and browser, e.g. Apple
> systems.
>
> (2) The web page relies on something in the "in house" environment such as
> a local file so it only works on the company's internal LAN.
>
> I have the same result on W10 using Chrome and Edge.
> I also can replicate on my Samsung Galaxy pad using the Samsung browser.
>
> Independent tests would be most helpful.
>
> TIA

The chevrons show up in Firefox if you allow cookies.



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wasbit

wasbit wrote:

> The chevrons show up in Firefox if you allow cookies.

Allowing approx 400 cookies seems a high price to pay?