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PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
> With a new doubt about the Energica, this week I've been using the 10R
> and, latterly, the Guzzi to commute to work.
>
> The 10R is a bit of a beast on public roads: very focused. It handles
> the bumpy back roads OK: the suspension copes remarkably well but it is
> by no means comfortable. The Hyperpro damper keeps the steering very
> secure without a flap.
>
> Unfortunately, the throttle pick-up off idle is scarily abrupt at
> certain engine speeds and slightly uneven thereafter, making powering
> out of slow corners a case for caution. The Guzzi, on the other hand, is
> a sort of armchair for the anatomically challenged. Ever seen that
> Shobba cartoon of "Bob, who designs our one-piece oversuits"? That's the
> anatomy you need.
>
> The wiiide handlebar'd steering reacts to changes in camber and pulls
> into corners. The ground clearance isn't great. You get used to it, but
> it takes a day or two.
>
> But here's the thing: at 65K miles, the suspension still soaks up bumps
> without wallowing or bouncing. I found that I could take bumpy back
> roads, with patches on top of patches, a shade off the 10R's pace (to be
> fair, I don't hit 3 figure speeds or get anywhere near the edges of the
> tyres on either bike on these roads) but without my knuckles going
> white. It would be useless on track, but it's fun in its way. If only it
> were 50kg lighter.


My FJR is much more on the Guzzi's end of the spectrum than the 10R,
naturally.

At somewhere north of 80k miles, it's still very comfy, doesn't wallow
in corners, and does everything I need and more. But with emphasis
on the 'more', I wish it were also 50kg lighter.

I did put on a Dave Quinn (?) shock, which smoothed things out
considerably.

On 16/05/2025 23:22, PipL wrote:
> With a new doubt about the Energica, this week I've been using the 10R
> and, latterly, the Guzzi to commute to work.
>

Back when I used to commute, having done so on a few different bikes
(but never a sports bike), my all time favourite has to be the XJR.

Stable, especially when filtering.
Road presence.
Enough grunt for the purpose.
Handling, Ok for a 20th century piece.

Just the rain was an issue, no protection :-)


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On 17/05/2025 08:28, YTC#1 wrote:
> On 16/05/2025 23:22, PipL wrote:
>> With a new doubt about the Energica, this week I've been using the 10R
>> and, latterly, the Guzzi to commute to work.
>>
>
> Back when I used to commute, having done so on a few different bikes
> (but never a sports bike), my all time favourite has to be the XJR.
>
> Stable, especially when filtering.
> Road presence.
> Enough grunt for the purpose.
> Handling, Ok for a 20th century piece.
>
> Just the rain was an issue, no protection :-)
>
>
Oh, and 93k miles on it.


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On 16/05/2025 23:22, PipL wrote:
> With a new doubt about the Energica, this week I've been using the 10R
> and, latterly, the Guzzi to commute to work.

I do kind of miss the thundercat for commuting because it was so
chuckable and moderate power so it didn't tend to do burnouts like the
gsxr, but I do love commuting on the gsxr just 'cause it's so stupid.

On Fri, 16 May 2025 23:22:55 +0100, PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:

>The Guzzi, on the other hand, is
>a sort of armchair for the anatomically challenged. Ever seen that
>Shobba cartoon of "Bob, who designs our one-piece oversuits"? That's the
>anatomy you need.

This chap?
https://champ.org.uk/images/Shobba/Bob%20designs%20our%20range%20of%20one%20piece%20oversuits.jpg
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On 17/05/2025 19:05, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 16 May 2025 23:22:55 +0100, PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
>
>> The Guzzi, on the other hand, is
>> a sort of armchair for the anatomically challenged. Ever seen that
>> Shobba cartoon of "Bob, who designs our one-piece oversuits"? That's the
>> anatomy you need.
>
> This chap?
> https://champ.org.uk/images/Shobba/Bob%20designs%20our%20range%20of%20one%20piece%20oversuits.jpg

Exactly! I had a feeling you'd get it immediately.


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On 16/05/2025 23:22, PipL wrote:
> With a new doubt about the Energica, this week I've been using the 10R
> and, latterly, the Guzzi to commute to work.
>
snip
> were 50kg lighter.

Eat less pies?

On 19/05/2025 17:37, Ace wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2025 16:33:20 +0100, Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 16/05/2025 23:22, PipL wrote:
>>> With a new doubt about the Energica, this week I've been using the 10R
>>> and, latterly, the Guzzi to commute to work.
>>>
>> snip
>>> were 50kg lighter.
>>
>> Eat less pies?
>
> Fewer.
True.

On Mon, 19 May 2025 16:33:20 +0100, Tim <nobody@home.co.uk> wrote:

>On 16/05/2025 23:22, PipL wrote:
>> With a new doubt about the Energica, this week I've been using the 10R
>> and, latterly, the Guzzi to commute to work.
>>
>snip
>> were 50kg lighter.
>
>Eat less pies?

Fewer.
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On Sun, 18 May 2025 13:59:05 +0100, PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:

>On 17/05/2025 19:05, Champ wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 May 2025 23:22:55 +0100, PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
>>
>>> The Guzzi, on the other hand, is
>>> a sort of armchair for the anatomically challenged. Ever seen that
>>> Shobba cartoon of "Bob, who designs our one-piece oversuits"? That's the
>>> anatomy you need.

>> This chap?
>> https://champ.org.uk/images/Shobba/Bob%20designs%20our%20range%20of%20one%20piece%20oversuits.jpg

>Exactly! I had a feeling you'd get it immediately.

I might actually be the curator of the international Shobba archive:
https://champ.org.uk/images/Shobba/
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neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On 26/05/2025 21:53, Champ wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2025 13:59:05 +0100, PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
>
>> On 17/05/2025 19:05, Champ wrote:
>>> On Fri, 16 May 2025 23:22:55 +0100, PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Guzzi, on the other hand, is
>>>> a sort of armchair for the anatomically challenged. Ever seen that
>>>> Shobba cartoon of "Bob, who designs our one-piece oversuits"? That's the
>>>> anatomy you need.
>
>>> This chap?
>>> https://champ.org.uk/images/Shobba/Bob%20designs%20our%20range%20of%20one%20piece%20oversuits.jpg
>
>> Exactly! I had a feeling you'd get it immediately.
>
> I might actually be the curator of the international Shobba archive:
> https://champ.org.uk/images/Shobba/

Excellent!

Chris

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