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On 18/06/2025 21:00, wessie wrote:
> Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>
> https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/

I always road Hondas in my yoof - and was perfectly happy with them.

Then I got a Suzuki and realised that Hondas were but the Ford of the
motorcycle world :-)

Still, half a billion motorcycles is quite an achievement!

Chris

--
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Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
https://www.Deuchars.org.uk

chrisnd @ukrm <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
> On 18/06/2025 21:00, wessie wrote:
>> Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>>
>> https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/
>
> I always road Hondas in my yoof - and was perfectly happy with them.
>
> Then I got a Suzuki and realised that Hondas were but the Ford of the
> motorcycle world :-)
>
> Still, half a billion motorcycles is quite an achievement!

I've owned all of the big 4 Japanese brands, my first was a Honda S65.
I have tried in the past to come up with a list of every bike I've
ever owned, it's around somewhere but I can't find it right ATM.

My take on it is that they are more similar than different, and there's
nothing wrong with having a brand preference, but to lump all Hondas
into a box, all Kawasakis into another, et cetera, is simply wrong.

They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
the years.

On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>chrisnd @ukrm <chrisnd@privacy.net> wrote:
>> On 18/06/2025 21:00, wessie wrote:
>>> Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>>>
>>> https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/
>>
>> I always road Hondas in my yoof - and was perfectly happy with them.
>>
>> Then I got a Suzuki and realised that Hondas were but the Ford of the
>> motorcycle world :-)
>>
>> Still, half a billion motorcycles is quite an achievement!
>
>I've owned all of the big 4 Japanese brands, my first was a Honda S65.
>I have tried in the past to come up with a list of every bike I've
>ever owned, it's around somewhere but I can't find it right ATM.
>
>My take on it is that they are more similar than different, and there's
>nothing wrong with having a brand preference, but to lump all Hondas
>into a box, all Kawasakis into another, et cetera, is simply wrong.
>
>They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>the years.
>

Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
 forever :-)


--
Geoff
NTV 650

On 18/06/2025 22:00, wessie wrote:
>Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>
>https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/

Happy on a Honda :-)
--
Geoff
NTV 650

On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
> On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>>
>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>> the years.
>
> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
> forever :-)

Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?

--
Eddie                                                 eddie@deguello.org

Eddie <eddie@deguello.org> wrote:
> On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
>> On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>
>>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>> the years.
>>
>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
>> forever :-)
>
> Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?

Ah, the dreaded VF750F, a mate had one, and the cams did indeed go
bad. IIRC Honda came up with a fix for him, and there were also a
number of DIY fixes for the Sabre and Magna models that were affected
as well[1]. Also IIRC the VFR750with its over-the-top geared cams
was Honda's response to show they really could build a bulletproof V4.

ISTR Honda also had a period where the cylinder heads for the GL1800
had a casting flaw that caused overheating? But generally, if they
screwed up, they would eventually make it right.

My own FJR had a couple of notable flaws, google for "FJR Altitude
Sickness" and "FJR ground spiders". Both issues were addressed on
my bike, the first with a replacement ECU, and the 2nd with a total
wiring loom replacement, which I declined in favor of reworking the
existing loom myself.

Mistakes happen to the best of them, it's how the manufacturer
addresses them that matters.

[1] Jack Hunt, formerly of rec.motorcycles, was an authority on all
things related to the Sab/Mag cam issues. He and his wife built a
motorcycle campground in Tellico Plains TN [2] which I have stayed at
a couple of times. Since sold on to other owners but it's still there
AFAIK.

[2] Near the infamous "Tail of the Dragon" on the Tennessee / North
Carolina border.

On 20/06/2025 17:44 Eddie penned these words:
> On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
>> On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>
>>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>> the years.
>>
>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
>> forever :-)
>
> Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?
>

"knock knock"
"who is there?"
"cx500"

--
Ian

"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of
the last priest"

On 21/06/2025 11:34, boots wrote:
> On 20/06/2025 17:44 Eddie penned these words:
>> On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
>>>
>>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
>>> forever :-)
>>
>> Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?
>
> "knock knock"
> "who is there?"
> "cx500"

Ah, very good :-)

--
Eddie                                                 eddie@deguello.org

On 20/06/2025 18:44, Eddie wrote:
>On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
>> On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>
>>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>> the years.
>>
>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
>> forever :-)
>
>Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?

OK apart from the chocolate cams they all last forever.

--
Geoff
NTV 650

On 21/06/2025 12:34, boots wrote:
>On 20/06/2025 17:44 Eddie penned these words:
>> On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
>>> On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>>> the years.
>>>
>>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
>>> forever :-)
>>
>> Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?
>>
>
>"knock knock"
>"who is there?"
>"cx500"

OK apart from the chocolate cams and CX500 tensioners they all last forever
--
Geoff
NTV 650

geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
> On 20/06/2025 18:44, Eddie wrote:
>>On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
>>> On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>>> the years.
>>>
>>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
>>> forever :-)
>>
>>Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?
>
> OK apart from the chocolate cams they all last forever.

Ummmm.

My '86 GL1200 Aspencade with leaking head gaskets was one of three
with the same issue owned by guys in my group at work. One of the
bikes was in the shop multiple times for leaking head gaskets.

Didn't stop the bike from running but I imagine it didn't do much
good for engine longevity.

H <donotremovespam@outlook.com> wrote:
> (Joking) Was it really a Honda if it was build in the US?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Gold_Wing#GL1200(SC14)

Sure- just like the genuine Kawasakis built in Lincoln, Nebraska.

(One of which I owned, a 1998 ZG1000).

geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote in news:1036pq2$16im0$1@dont-email.me:

> On 21/06/2025 12:34, boots wrote:
>>On 20/06/2025 17:44 Eddie penned these words:
>>> On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
>>>> On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>>>> the years.
>>>>
>>>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad
>>>> ones last forever :-)
>>>
>>> Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?
>>>
>>
>>"knock knock"
>>"who is there?"
>>"cx500"
>
> OK apart from the chocolate cams and CX500 tensioners they all last
> forever

I raise you self immolating votage regulators on CBR600 & VFR750

(Joking) Was it really a Honda if it was build in the US?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Gold_Wing#GL1200(SC14)


--
=o&o

On 21/06/2025 20:27, wessie wrote:
> I raise you self immolating votage regulators on CBR600 & VFR750

Here, have one of these: 'l'.

Exploding voltage regulators are hardly unique to Hondas.

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CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

Pip

On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:12:23 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:

>>there's
>>nothing wrong with having a brand preference, but to lump all Hondas
>>into a box, all Kawasakis into another, et cetera, is simply wrong.

>>They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>the years.

>Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
> forever :-)

That is utter and total bollocks.
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 19:27:59 -0000 (UTC), wessie
<willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:

<Hondas [1]>
>>>> Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?

>>>"knock knock"
>>>"who is there?"
>>>"cx500"

>> OK apart from the chocolate cams and CX500 tensioners they all last
>> forever

>I raise you self immolating votage regulators on CBR600 & VFR750

And Blackbirds.  I was on holiday in France with Mat Tab when his
voltage regulator melted

[1] spit
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:13:10 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:

>On 18/06/2025 22:00, wessie wrote:

>>Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>>
>>https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/

>Happy on a Honda :-)

I think I was put off Hondas by their advertising in the 70s, when, as
a teenager, I was just becoming interested in such things.

I understand that "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" was designed
to try and remove the "mods and rockers" stigma attached to
motorcycling, but, as a teenager, I certainly didn't *want* to meet
"the nicest people".  And I sure as fuck didn't want to be one.

50 years later, my attitude to such things hasn't really changed
--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:13:10 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
>
>>On 18/06/2025 22:00, wessie wrote:
>
>>>Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>>>
>>>https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/
>
>>Happy on a Honda :-)
>
> I think I was put off Hondas by their advertising in the 70s, when, as
> a teenager, I was just becoming interested in such things.

I'm a few years ahead of you and my memory was that I would have
killed to have _any_ motorcycle, regardless of brand or type.

> I understand that "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" was designed
> to try and remove the "mods and rockers" stigma attached to
> motorcycling, but, as a teenager, I certainly didn't *want* to meet
> "the nicest people".  And I sure as fuck didn't want to be one.

I remember my grandparents' neighbors, a typical suburban couple,
not at all the 'biker' type, got their hands on 'a couple of Hondas'
as they were known in the late mid to late 60s. Not 'Honda 50s',
not 'Super Cubs', just 'Hondas' as a generic term understood to be a
lightweight bike totally distinct from a traditional motorcycle. My
estimation of their coolness shot up 1000% as a result and I could
only dream of my parents achieving such a status.

I managed to talk my dad into helping me to build a mini-bike from
angle iron and galvanized pipe (which was quite well constructed,
as dad was a former master aircraft mechanic for Northwest Airlines
and a Liberty Ship welder in WWII), powered by an 8 hp Rotax 2-stroke
liberated from a miniature snowmobile.

[Picture of my dad at work, maintaining a Wasp Major R-4360 on a
Boeing 377 Stratocruiser in 1958]

https://imgur.com/ZcmyRc8


This was great fun, but I still longed for the real thing, which
eventually came to be in the form of a 1966 Honda S65.

[Advert for the Honda S65, which "runs away from most 63cc machines"]

https://imgur.com/shI4L2U

Unfortunately, I have no pictures of either the doodle-bug or my S65,
but thanks for prompting my old man trip down memory lane...

wessie <willnotwork@tesco.net> wrote:
> Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>
> https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/

These vintage Honda commercials from the 60s are pure gold.

I would have loved to see the high society fashion plate woman
negotiate Lombard Street on her Honda 50, but all we see is her
turning into it.

https://youtu.be/ck9wBHW2160

On 22/06/2025 16:53, Mark Olson wrote:

> These vintage Honda commercials from the 60s are pure gold.
>
> I would have loved to see the high society fashion plate woman
> negotiate Lombard Street on her Honda 50, but all we see is her
> turning into it.
>
> https://youtu.be/ck9wBHW2160

Gosh that stuff is dorky, I wonder what similar period ads for
other stuff was like.

I'm not sure how a bike ad could be better than the one for the
rocket 3, but I'd still never buy one.

Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote in news:es7i5k55hjt2dsro8g2qetvd7dt7eu1s6t@
4ax.com:


>>[Advert for the Honda S65, which "runs away from most 63cc machines"]
>>https://imgur.com/shI4L2U
>
> heh.  Reading it from here, it's obvious that pretty much the entire
> copy is designed to distinguish it from Harleys and the like.
>
>

"you're not a manky grebo when you ride a Honda"

On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:05:32 -0000 (UTC), Mark Olson
<olsonm@tiny.invalid> wrote:

>> I understand that "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" was designed
>> to try and remove the "mods and rockers" stigma attached to
>> motorcycling, but, as a teenager, I certainly didn't *want* to meet
>> "the nicest people".  And I sure as fuck didn't want to be one.

>I remember my grandparents' neighbors, a typical suburban couple,
>not at all the 'biker' type, got their hands on 'a couple of Hondas'
>as they were known in the late mid to late 60s. Not 'Honda 50s',
>not 'Super Cubs', just 'Hondas' as a generic term understood to be a
>lightweight bike totally distinct from a traditional motorcycle. My
>estimation of their coolness shot up 1000% as a result and I could
>only dream of my parents achieving such a status.

heh

<snip>

> dad was a former master aircraft mechanic for Northwest Airlines

>[Picture of my dad at work, maintaining a Wasp Major R-4360 on a
>Boeing 377 Stratocruiser in 1958]
>
>https://imgur.com/ZcmyRc8

That is an absolutely brilliant picture.  That's history, right there

>[Advert for the Honda S65, which "runs away from most 63cc machines"]
>https://imgur.com/shI4L2U

heh.  Reading it from here, it's obvious that pretty much the entire
copy is designed to distinguish it from Harleys and the like.


--
Champ
neal at champ dot org dot uk

I don't know, but I been told
You never slow down, you never grow old

On Jun 23, 2025 at 7:09:08 AM EDT, "Sqirrel99" <secret.sqirrel99@gmail.com>
wrote:

> cat wrote:
>> On 22/06/2025 16:53, Mark Olson wrote:
>>
>>> These vintage Honda commercials from the 60s are pure gold.
>>>
>>> I would have loved to see the high society fashion plate woman
>>> negotiate Lombard Street on her Honda 50, but all we see is her
>>> turning into it.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/ck9wBHW2160
>>
>> Gosh that stuff is dorky, I wonder what similar period ads for
>> other stuff was like.
>>
>> I'm not sure how a bike ad could be better than the one for the
>> rocket 3, but I'd still never buy one.
>
> Just a pic rather than video, but the original Hinckley Speed Triple one
> is pretty good :
> https://hagerty.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/1994_SpeedTriple_advert-1024x615.jpg

When that bike came out I thought it was tremendous. But now I realize I like
the subsequent model more (the one Wik had).

cat wrote:
> On 22/06/2025 16:53, Mark Olson wrote:
>
>> These vintage Honda commercials from the 60s are pure gold.
>>
>> I would have loved to see the high society fashion plate woman
>> negotiate Lombard Street on her Honda 50, but all we see is her
>> turning into it.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/ck9wBHW2160
>
> Gosh that stuff is dorky, I wonder what similar period ads for
> other stuff was like.
>
> I'm not sure how a bike ad could be better than the one for the
> rocket 3, but I'd still never buy one.

Just a pic rather than video, but the original Hinckley Speed Triple one
is pretty good :
https://hagerty.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/1994_SpeedTriple_advert-1024x615.jpg

On 21/06/2025 20:27, wessie wrote:
> geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote in news:1036pq2$16im0$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 21/06/2025 12:34, boots wrote:
>>> On 20/06/2025 17:44 Eddie penned these words:
>>>> On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
>>>>> On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>>>>> the years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad
>>>>> ones last forever :-)
>>>>
>>>> Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?
>>>>
>>>
>>> "knock knock"
>>> "who is there?"
>>> "cx500"
>>
>> OK apart from the chocolate cams and CX500 tensioners they all last
>> forever
>
> I raise you self immolating votage regulators on CBR600 & VFR750

And crank shaft bearings on an S90
:-)

Chris

--
The Deuchars  BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
https://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 22/06/2025 12:38, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:12:23 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
>
>>> there's
>>> nothing wrong with having a brand preference, but to lump all Hondas
>>> into a box, all Kawasakis into another, et cetera, is simply wrong.
>
>>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>> the years.
>
>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad ones last
>> forever :-)
>
> That is utter and total bollocks.

+1

:-)

Chris

--
The Deuchars  BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
https://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 22/06/2025 16:05, Mark Olson wrote:
> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:13:10 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/06/2025 22:00, wessie wrote:
>>
>>>> Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>>>>
>>>> https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/
>>
>>> Happy on a Honda :-)
>>
>> I think I was put off Hondas by their advertising in the 70s, when, as
>> a teenager, I was just becoming interested in such things.
>

>
> I managed to talk my dad into helping me to build a mini-bike from
> angle iron and galvanized pipe (which was quite well constructed,
> as dad was a former master aircraft mechanic for Northwest Airlines
> and a Liberty Ship welder in WWII), powered by an 8 hp Rotax 2-stroke
> liberated from a miniature snowmobile.
>
> [Picture of my dad at work, maintaining a Wasp Major R-4360 on a
> Boeing 377 Stratocruiser in 1958]
>
> https://imgur.com/ZcmyRc8

<Impressed>

>
> This was great fun, but I still longed for the real thing, which
> eventually came to be in the form of a 1966 Honda S65.
>
> [Advert for the Honda S65, which "runs away from most 63cc machines"]

!?

> https://imgur.com/shI4L2U

"servicing and repairs are almost unneeded"

!!!!

Chris
--
The Deuchars  BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
https://www.Deuchars.org.uk

On 22/06/2025 19:55, cat wrote:
> On 22/06/2025 16:53, Mark Olson wrote:
>
>> These vintage Honda commercials from the 60s are pure gold.
>>
>> I would have loved to see the high society fashion plate woman
>> negotiate Lombard Street on her Honda 50, but all we see is her
>> turning into it.
>>
>> https://youtu.be/ck9wBHW2160
>
> Gosh that stuff is dorky, I wonder what similar period ads for
> other stuff was like.

Yes - at least my S90 was black!
(OTC etc)

Chris

--
The Deuchars  BBB#40 COFF#14
Yamaha XV750SE & Suzuki GS550T
https://www.Deuchars.org.uk

PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
> On 22/06/2025 16:05, Mark Olson wrote:

>> [Picture of my dad at work, maintaining a Wasp Major R-4360 on a
>> Boeing 377 Stratocruiser in 1958]
>>
>> https://imgur.com/ZcmyRc8
>
> I was going to ask why a radial needed a huge radiator air intake
> underneath, but hit Google instead. That one had jet engines as well.

No jet engines on the Stratocruiser. It was derived from the C97
Stratofreighter, which in turn was derived from the B-29.

Some variants of the C97 did have jet engines, but the 377
Stratocruiser never did, just the incredibly complex R-4360.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_C-97_Stratofreighter

On 22/06/2025 16:05, Mark Olson wrote:
> Champ <neal@champ.org.uk> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:13:10 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/06/2025 22:00, wessie wrote:
>>
>>>> Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>>>>
>>>> https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/
>>
>>> Happy on a Honda :-)
>>
>> I think I was put off Hondas by their advertising in the 70s, when, as
>> a teenager, I was just becoming interested in such things.
>
> I'm a few years ahead of you and my memory was that I would have
> killed to have _any_ motorcycle, regardless of brand or type.
>
>> I understand that "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" was designed
>> to try and remove the "mods and rockers" stigma attached to
>> motorcycling, but, as a teenager, I certainly didn't *want* to meet
>> "the nicest people".  And I sure as fuck didn't want to be one.
>
> I remember my grandparents' neighbors, a typical suburban couple,
> not at all the 'biker' type, got their hands on 'a couple of Hondas'
> as they were known in the late mid to late 60s. Not 'Honda 50s',
> not 'Super Cubs', just 'Hondas' as a generic term understood to be a
> lightweight bike totally distinct from a traditional motorcycle. My
> estimation of their coolness shot up 1000% as a result and I could
> only dream of my parents achieving such a status.
>
> I managed to talk my dad into helping me to build a mini-bike from
> angle iron and galvanized pipe (which was quite well constructed,
> as dad was a former master aircraft mechanic for Northwest Airlines
> and a Liberty Ship welder in WWII), powered by an 8 hp Rotax 2-stroke
> liberated from a miniature snowmobile.
>
> [Picture of my dad at work, maintaining a Wasp Major R-4360 on a
> Boeing 377 Stratocruiser in 1958]
>
> https://imgur.com/ZcmyRc8

I was going to ask why a radial needed a huge radiator air intake
underneath, but hit Google instead. That one had jet engines as well.


--

CHUMP #1 (CHarge Up Muppet)

Pip

PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
> On 23/06/2025 23:00, Mark Olson wrote:
>> PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
>>> On 22/06/2025 16:05, Mark Olson wrote:
>>
>>>> [Picture of my dad at work, maintaining a Wasp Major R-4360 on a
>>>> Boeing 377 Stratocruiser in 1958]
>>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/ZcmyRc8
>>>
>>> I was going to ask why a radial needed a huge radiator air intake
>>> underneath, but hit Google instead. That one had jet engines as well.
>>
>> No jet engines on the Stratocruiser. It was derived from the C97
>> Stratofreighter, which in turn was derived from the B-29.
>>
>> Some variants of the C97 did have jet engines, but the 377
>> Stratocruiser never did, just the incredibly complex R-4360.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_C-97_Stratofreighter
>
> Hmm. Oil cooler then?

Almost certainly an oil cooler.

On 23/06/2025 23:00, Mark Olson wrote:
> PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote:
>> On 22/06/2025 16:05, Mark Olson wrote:
>
>>> [Picture of my dad at work, maintaining a Wasp Major R-4360 on a
>>> Boeing 377 Stratocruiser in 1958]
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/ZcmyRc8
>>
>> I was going to ask why a radial needed a huge radiator air intake
>> underneath, but hit Google instead. That one had jet engines as well.
>
> No jet engines on the Stratocruiser. It was derived from the C97
> Stratofreighter, which in turn was derived from the B-29.
>
> Some variants of the C97 did have jet engines, but the 377
> Stratocruiser never did, just the incredibly complex R-4360.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_C-97_Stratofreighter

Hmm. Oil cooler then?


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wessie wrote:

>geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote in news:1036pq2$16im0$1@dont-email.me:
>
>> On 21/06/2025 12:34, boots wrote:
>>>On 20/06/2025 17:44 Eddie penned these words:
>>>> On 20/06/2025 15:12, geoffC wrote:
>>>>> On 19/06/2025 16:20, Mark Olson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They've all produced some great and some not-so-great
>>>>>>models over  the years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the
>>>>>bad  ones last forever :-)
>>>>
>>>> Can I interest you in a lovely set of chocolate camshafts?
>>>>
>>>
>>>"knock knock"
>>>"who is there?"
>>>"cx500"
>>
>> OK apart from the chocolate cams and CX500 tensioners they all last
>> forever
>
>I raise you self immolating votage regulators on CBR600 & VFR750

OK, apart from the chocolate cams, CX500 tensioners and exploding
voltage regulators, they last forever.


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Champ wrote:

>On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:12:23 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
>
>>>there's
>>>nothing wrong with having a brand preference, but to lump all
>>>Hondas into a box, all Kawasakis into another, et cetera, is
>>>simply wrong.
>
>>>They've all produced some great and some not-so-great models over
>>>the years.
>
>>Very true but Honda put them together so well that even the bad
>>ones last  forever :-)
>
>That is utter and total bollocks.

Probably :-)




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PipL <pip@nowhere.nul> wrote in news:mc2uttFfv03U1@mid.individual.net:

> On 24/06/2025 21:49, GeoffC wrote:
>> OK, apart from the chocolate cams, CX500 tensioners and exploding
>> voltage regulators, they last forever.
>
> What have Honda ever done for us?
>
>

fuckers caused Swindon to get bigger

On 24/06/2025 21:49, GeoffC wrote:
> OK, apart from the chocolate cams, CX500 tensioners and exploding
> voltage regulators, they last forever.

What have Honda ever done for us?


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On 25/06/2025 19:53, PipL wrote:
> On 24/06/2025 21:49, GeoffC wrote:
>> OK, apart from the chocolate cams, CX500 tensioners and exploding
>> voltage regulators, they last forever.
>
> What have Honda ever done for us?

Deauville?

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On 19/06/2025 09:56, chrisnd @ukrm wrote:
> On 18/06/2025 21:00, wessie wrote:
>> Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>>
>> https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-
>> motorcycles/
>
> I always road Hondas in my yoof - and was perfectly happy with them.

My 1st 2 bikes were Honda.
>
> Then I got a Suzuki and realised that Hondas were but the Ford of the
> motorcycle world :-)
>

My 4th was a GSX250, fuck it was a PITA.


> Still, half a billion motorcycles is quite an achievement!
>
> Chris
>



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On 22/06/2025 12:43, Champ wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:13:10 -0000 (UTC), geoffC <me@home.nl> wrote:
>
>> On 18/06/2025 22:00, wessie wrote:
>
>>> Last month, Honda made their 500 millionth bike despite a hex from Champ
>>>
>>> https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2025/may/honda-sell-500-million-motorcycles/
>
>> Happy on a Honda :-)
>
> I think I was put off Hondas by their advertising in the 70s, when, as
> a teenager, I was just becoming interested in such things.
>
> I understand that "You meet the nicest people on a Honda" was designed

A mate had an Express. Full face helmet and tasseled leather.

I rode it into the back of a Viva.

We straighten the forks with a car jack.

The Viva was left with a head sized dint in the boot for the owner to
discover ......


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On 25/06/2025 22:09, Bruce wrote:
> On 25/06/2025 19:53, PipL wrote:
>> On 24/06/2025 21:49, GeoffC wrote:
>>> OK, apart from the chocolate cams, CX500 tensioners and exploding
>>> voltage regulators, they last forever.
>>
>> What have Honda ever done for us?
>
> Deauville?
>

Didn't Boots (Manchester) have one? I think he liked it.


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