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On 08/07/2025 10:13, Mark Goodge wrote:
> The annual renewal for the domain name and hosting service which supports
> the moderation software for ukrc is approaching shortly. While I have no
> issue with continuing to support this out of my own pocket, if any of our
> regular contributors feel like being a cheerful giver (2 Corinthians 9:6-7)
> then you can ping a small sum via PayPal to 'mark@good-stuff.co.uk'.
>
> (Annoyingly, the costs of renewing the domain have shot up recently. Back
> when I first took over running the system, I registered the domain name
> ukrc.info because it matched the abbreviated name of the group and was, at
> the time, cheap. But it's now more than quadrupled in price since then. A
> long term project is to register a new, cheaper domain name and shift
> everything to that. But I need to renew the existing domain for one last
> time before I can do that, as shifting everything isn't quick and simple).


I have a few domains registered and use 20i. Whilst the hosting isn't
cheap (I pay just under £50 a month for unlimited hosting) their domain
prices are very reasonably priced, certainly cheaper than elsewhere I've
seen.

On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 12:52:54 +0100, John <megane.06@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 08/07/2025 10:13, Mark Goodge wrote:
>> The annual renewal for the domain name and hosting service which supports
>> the moderation software for ukrc is approaching shortly. While I have no
>> issue with continuing to support this out of my own pocket, if any of our
>> regular contributors feel like being a cheerful giver (2 Corinthians 9:6-7)
>> then you can ping a small sum via PayPal to 'mark@good-stuff.co.uk'.
>>
>> (Annoyingly, the costs of renewing the domain have shot up recently. Back
>> when I first took over running the system, I registered the domain name
>> ukrc.info because it matched the abbreviated name of the group and was, at
>> the time, cheap. But it's now more than quadrupled in price since then. A
>> long term project is to register a new, cheaper domain name and shift
>> everything to that. But I need to renew the existing domain for one last
>> time before I can do that, as shifting everything isn't quick and simple).
>
>
>I have a few domains registered and use 20i. Whilst the hosting isn't
>cheap (I pay just under £50 a month for unlimited hosting) their domain
>prices are very reasonably priced, certainly cheaper than elsewhere I've
>seen.

The main problem here is that the price of all .info domains has risen
considerably. This is a decision made by the domain registrar, and all the
resellers are passing that on to their customers.

What I'm planning to do is dump the ukrc.info domain and move the moderbot
to a new domain. In the process, I also want to update the software that the
moderbot runs on, since it's a bit crufty and could do with improvement. I
had hoped to at least make a start on that earlier this year, but life has
been incredibly busy and I simply haven't had the time.

Mark

On 09/07/2025 09:02, Mark Goodge wrote:

> What I'm planning to do is dump the ukrc.info domain and move the moderbot
> to a new domain. In the process, I also want to update the software that the
> moderbot runs on, since it's a bit crufty and could do with improvement. I
> had hoped to at least make a start on that earlier this year, but life has
> been incredibly busy and I simply haven't had the time

What's your view on a web based forum?  Usenet is virtually dead now,
although certain sites eg uklm, are still quite popular.

On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 16:02:00 +0100, John <megane.06@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 09/07/2025 09:02, Mark Goodge wrote:
>
>> What I'm planning to do is dump the ukrc.info domain and move the moderbot
>> to a new domain. In the process, I also want to update the software that the
>> moderbot runs on, since it's a bit crufty and could do with improvement. I
>> had hoped to at least make a start on that earlier this year, but life has
>> been incredibly busy and I simply haven't had the time
>
>What's your view on a web based forum?  Usenet is virtually dead now,
>although certain sites eg uklm, are still quite popular.

Web forums cost even more to run than Usenet groups, although they can, to a
certain extent, offset that by carrying advertising. But the web seems to
attract undesiriables far more than usenet does, these days. Moderating a
web forum is a much more intensive task than moderating a Usenet group.

You could have a look at these and see if you think they're a viable
alternative to ukrc:

https://www.christianforums.com/forums/uk-and-ireland.206/
https://www.savedbygrace.org.uk/forums/index.php
https://christianchat.com/christian-family-forum/christians-in-uk.139164/

Plus, if you're on Facebook, there's this:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/christiansintheuk/

Personally, I think I still prefer it here.

Mark

On 09/07/2025 19:37, Mark Goodge wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 16:02:00 +0100, John <megane.06@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/07/2025 09:02, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>
>>> What I'm planning to do is dump the ukrc.info domain and move the moderbot
>>> to a new domain. In the process, I also want to update the software that the
>>> moderbot runs on, since it's a bit crufty and could do with improvement. I
>>> had hoped to at least make a start on that earlier this year, but life has
>>> been incredibly busy and I simply haven't had the time
>>
>> What's your view on a web based forum?  Usenet is virtually dead now,
>> although certain sites eg uklm, are still quite popular.
>
> Web forums cost even more to run than Usenet groups, although they can, to a
> certain extent, offset that by carrying advertising. But the web seems to
> attract undesiriables far more than usenet does, these days. Moderating a
> web forum is a much more intensive task than moderating a Usenet group.
>
> You could have a look at these and see if you think they're a viable
> alternative to ukrc:
>
> https://www.christianforums.com/forums/uk-and-ireland.206/
> https://www.savedbygrace.org.uk/forums/index.php
> https://christianchat.com/christian-family-forum/christians-in-uk.139164/
>
> Plus, if you're on Facebook, there's this:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/christiansintheuk/
>
> Personally, I think I still prefer it here.

Fair enough


Mark, I owe you an apology. When I typed a response to this, I hit reply
instead of follow up (thunderbird)  I don't have it set up to reply to
posters direct so it said can't send. I'm lazy so I type the usenet
address and delete the poster name, and I must have typed
uk.legal.moderation (it auto completes) instead of ukrc, because somehow
it has ended up there instead, sorry.