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Started by N_Cook
Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:44
Heads up: BBC1 tonight
Author: N_Cook
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:44
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:44
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9pm Why cities flood I hope they show why the Spanish relevant agency sat on data rather than sending out alert/warning immediately. L'aquila effect? As far as marine flooding in the UK , the Environment Agency for 6 hours deliberately sits on the surge data from the NSLF before sending out a warning. Of the 4 off 6-hourly NTSLF updates prior to any surge, the first, a day ahead, is little more than a hint, the second firms up or nullifies the first, the third is always near enough the same as the fourth. But the EA does not activate the warning process on the third update. When a third update of a surge is say 1.2m over predicted normal high tide level, the 0.1m more or less deviation from 1.2m of the fourth update is pretty irrelevant. -- Global sea level rise to 2100 from curve-fitted existing altimetry data <http://diverse.4mg.com/slr.htm>
Re: Heads up: BBC1 tonight
Author: Jethro_uk
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:04
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 14:04
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:44:57 +0100, N_Cook wrote: > 9pm Why cities flood I hope they show why the Spanish relevant agency > sat on data rather than sending out alert/warning immediately. > L'aquila effect? > > As far as marine flooding in the UK , the Environment Agency for 6 hours > deliberately sits on the surge data from the NSLF before sending out a > warning. Of the 4 off 6-hourly NTSLF updates prior to any surge, the > first, a day ahead, is little more than a hint, the second firms up or > nullifies the first, the third is always near enough the same as the > fourth. But the EA does not activate the warning process on the third > update. > When a third update of a surge is say 1.2m over predicted normal high > tide level, the 0.1m more or less deviation from 1.2m of the fourth > update is pretty irrelevant. TL;DR is that water management eats into shareholder profits. I don't need to watch 5 minutes worth of BBC facts crammed into an hour to not learn that. The climate is changing. The climate has always been changing with or without man, who can do nothing about it except adapt to it.
Re: Heads up: BBC1 tonight
Author: N_Cook
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:58
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:58
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On 24/06/2025 15:04, Jethro_uk wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 13:44:57 +0100, N_Cook wrote: > >> 9pm Why cities flood I hope they show why the Spanish relevant agency >> sat on data rather than sending out alert/warning immediately. >> L'aquila effect? >> >> As far as marine flooding in the UK , the Environment Agency for 6 hours >> deliberately sits on the surge data from the NSLF before sending out a >> warning. Of the 4 off 6-hourly NTSLF updates prior to any surge, the >> first, a day ahead, is little more than a hint, the second firms up or >> nullifies the first, the third is always near enough the same as the >> fourth. But the EA does not activate the warning process on the third >> update. >> When a third update of a surge is say 1.2m over predicted normal high >> tide level, the 0.1m more or less deviation from 1.2m of the fourth >> update is pretty irrelevant. > > TL;DR is that water management eats into shareholder profits. I don't > need to watch 5 minutes worth of BBC facts crammed into an hour to not > learn that. > > The climate is changing. The climate has always been changing with or > without man, who can do nothing about it except adapt to it. > Especially for anything climate-wise related to the oceans. If all countries went net-zero tomorrow, the oceans are locked into at least a century of warming , rising etc. We're doomed ! -- Global sea level rise to 2100 from curve-fitted existing altimetry data <http://diverse.4mg.com/slr.htm>
Re: Heads up: BBC1 tonight
Author: Jethro_uk
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 16:34
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 16:34
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:58:32 +0100, N_Cook wrote: > On 24/06/2025 15:04, Jethro_uk wrote: >> [quoted text muted] > > Especially for anything climate-wise related to the oceans. If all > countries went net-zero tomorrow, the oceans are locked into at least a > century of warming , rising etc. We're doomed ! Bit hysterical ? Yes, the future will possibly be objectively less pleasant for our descendants than us. However shit happens. And it's highly likely they will curse us for the positive things that we failed to do, rather than the negative things we failed to stop.
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